Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:59 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How many Catalan players missed the Saints game through suspension?

Selective Saints memory syndrome strikes again!!!

Well at least you don't have the cheek to defend Taylor.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:16 am  

You can argue details for and against, but certainly the tackles were similar enough that one player being found with no case to answer and the other getting a 3 match ban is more than a little baffling.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:40 am  

The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html

The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:48 am  

MickeyMo wrote: The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html cant really argue with that.

MickeyMo wrote: The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html cant really argue with that.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:06 am  

MickeyMo wrote: The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html A great video that proves there point. The more I see the Scott Taylor one the more it's obvious he was taking him out. It was late, a shoulder charge, high and planned. I'm convinced the only reason he wasnt banned is because he plays for the goons. The other superleague clubs should be standing up for Catalans in this and forcing the RFL to explain themselves

MickeyMo wrote: The Dragons have put together a video highlighting the inconsistencies they see: http://www.superleaguefans.com/catalans-dragons/2013/08/08/dragons-blast-rfl-double-standards.html A great video that proves there point. The more I see the Scott Taylor one the more it's obvious he was taking him out. It was late, a shoulder charge, high and planned. I'm convinced the only reason he wasnt banned is because he plays for the goons. The other superleague clubs should be standing up for Catalans in this and forcing the RFL to explain themselves

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:29 am  

Couldn't agree more. The only one to pick up a ban was the Cats player and it was for 3 whopping games.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:21 pm  

el red wrote:

At this moment in time you are not allowed to use other incidents (no matter how blatant they were) to support your own case. The RFL say they treat each case on its own merits but the rest of us know it would just show up how inconsistent (at best) or corrupt (at worst) they actually are. I personally just hope they are incompetent. It does seem a ridiculous coincidence who their next two games are against. Don't the Kiwi's have these same 'inconsistent' rulings just before they play Aus, funny that eh?

..... but will be allowed back to throw some hits at Warrington ...... I'm sure those at the RFL didn't realise this when they came up with their 3 game ban .... honest!

As for Taylor .... he thought it was hilarious at the time ... hitting little blokes just about sums him up.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:31 pm  

EHW wrote:

cant really argue with that.

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Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:34 pm  

The thing that makes me laugh about the Scott Taylor one is that they didn't ban him because they ruled it was O'Brien's head colliding with Wellens that knocked him out.

Under the rule of law, if you throw a brick through a window, not knowing there was someone on the other side of the glass, and the brick hits that person and kills them, you are still guilty of manslaughter (called unlawful act manslaughter). Taylor hits him high, late, with the shoulder, from behind and with intent. Even if there was no intent, he was clearly reckless at the very least and deserves a ban.

Remember when the RFL started dishing out bans for late charges on the kicker (an act that sometimes caused injury) Bendan Costin for Hudds on Sean Long a prime example.

The trouble is the RFL have outlawed something to prevent injury and protect players and since the ban, we have seen more injuries than when it was legal. It can be argued that when players could expect a shoulder charge, they were prepared for it when they play at the line. Now that its outlawed they can take a greater risk but as a result, when it happens, it can be more dangerous.

The Cats player deserved a ban, as did the other 3 or 4 players on the Cats video. Interesting they didn't include the late challenge by a Cats player on Theo Fages eariler in the season though.

Re: LMS charged for punching : Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:20 pm  

I'm sorry, but that set of clips actually undermines their whole case.

They clearly show different tackles.

Is it Sykes for Bradford- hits with sternum, yes it was late, but not a shoulder charge for mine.

Ellis again does not lead with shoulder, his chest hits the Huddersfield man.

Taylor I think hits with the shoulder, but he is not leading with it.

The Catalan player is leading with the shoulder all the way through, there is no attempt to open the arms to even fake a tackle.

If I was going to judge them.

Ellis - fine
Bradford lad - late hit, should be yellow but no ban
Taylor - hits head with shoulder, but did not lead with shoulder 1 match ban.
Taia - leads with shoulder so 2 or 3 matches.
Julian Bousquets - not actually on that set of clips is just sick, luck he did not kill the fella.