Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

All Saints really needed to insert in there somewhere was 'going forward' and the piece could have been produced by the council.

It says precisely nothing but is written in such a way as to persuade people who don't think too hard about what they read that it is actually saying something.

Remember, in the last statement, the club was actually specific in saying that work on the cladding would begin in the off season.

I wonder if the club lied ....

Yes IMO they lied.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:57 pm  

St pete wrote:

Yes IMO they lied.

Why would they lie. If they had, when the cladding was not done the uproar would be twice as bad as if they had just said "Sorry can't afford it!".

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:39 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

Why would they lie.

Er, because they don't want to divulge the truth? That's usually why people lie is it not?

Mike A has written a great bit of corporate tosh. I work for a council; I'm used to reading corporate tosh.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:14 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

update
Verb:
Make (something) more modern or up to date.
Noun:
An act of bringing something or someone up to date, or an updated version of something.

Just because they're telling us about it, doesn't make it an update. An update suggests by it's very nature that something has changed, which it hasn't. I've never had a conversation with someone where they have updated me on the fact that nothing has changed.

I have no idea why I'm even getting into this to be honest, it doesn't really matter.

OED definition:

give (someone) the latest information about something:
the reporter promised to keep the viewers updated

Just because the latest information is nothing much has changed...

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:17 pm  

St pete wrote:

I can see your point but if this problem isn't put to bed ASAP then people will stop going. If they get soaking wet every week then I think fans might not go.

For example - say we was playing Hudds Friday, its throwing it down but its a sky live game, will people stay in or go in and get wet ?

Did they at KR?

Running my own business also makes me very very aware of health & safety, IMO the wet concrete floors are massive safety issue, the concrete slabs are power float finish meaning its smooth making it slippery. Where the is blame, the us a claim.

Also, I know for a fact the concrete mix for rhe floors in concourses are not for outside conditions like cold, snow and rain. If the is a continued amount of water on that concrete floor, I'm pretty certain few years down the line it will break up. The whole floor would then have to be dug out and re-slabbed.

IMO saints need to come up with something as its only going to come back and bite them in the end and could prove very expensive.

I accept that it's an issue that needs resolving as soon as possible, I'm just not sure it's as easy for the club as some people appear to think it is.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:57 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Did they at KR?

they never got nearly 9000 season tickets a month before christmas there either. Another year and broken promises and people will stop renewing, maybe not 1000's but some.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:47 pm  

I think the fact they brought it up again shows their intent. If they wanted to ignore the issue so it would go away, putting it across the front page of the website ain't going to do that.

Whether the statement says anything new is debatable but it's only picking at slight differences, whether you think it's an update a refresh, a lastest state of play in the end I think we all agree that cladding is required.

I would suggest that the club has put this out because they have been asked about it. If someone asks you a question there are 3 options, say nothing, say the truth, say a lie.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:40 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Er, because they don't want to divulge the truth? That's usually why people lie is it not?

Mike A has written a great bit of corporate tosh. I work for a council; I'm used to reading corporate tosh.

Did mcManus rob your house or beat you up or something. You do post the biggest load of GONADS I have ever read.

[Sadfish]

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:39 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

they never got nearly 9000 season tickets a month before christmas there either. Another year and broken promises and people will stop renewing, maybe not 1000's but some.

Well what a load of cock, there is no impact this year barring the first year glory hunters, we're already well past many peoples expectations for this season, without even putting the cladding issue into the mix, which for 99% of the Saints isn't that much of an issue, would be nice to have, just like have the donuts in the catering stands is a nice to have, but not really gonna be of impact if not stocked.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:51 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

there is no impact this year barring the first year glory hunters

...... glory hunters?