Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:31 am  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

It would have been a risk, but I wish we had thrown the chequebook at Chris Hill last season. One of the best props in SL and was the best prop on the field on Monday and Saturday. We're crying out for a pack leader and he would have been a perfect replacement for Jammer.

Chris Hill or Andy Lynch would have been good replcements for Jammer.

We've obviously still got a bit of desire when it comes to transfers, given we seem to have really gone for Manu, but one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:36 am  

jdrocket wrote:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and you have... love all

You ever think that people want to come to Warrington to win things? I know you probably share the same mentality of other 'below average' clubs, like London (in that you have to pay over the odds for very poor players to compensate for a drought of trophies) but don't assume Warrington do.

You'd be a fool to believe that a professional sportsman doesn't want to win something and you have way more chance of doing that at Warrington.

It's really quite simple.

Yes warrington's playoff success is amazing isn't it?

I have no evidence or proof but have heard from a very reliable source how Warrington stay under the cap.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:34 am  

Harry Pinner wrote:

Yes warrington's playoff success is amazing isn't it?

I have no evidence or proof but have heard from a very reliable source how Warrington stay under the cap.

Do you mind sharing what that way might be (As there are plenty)?

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:56 am  

jdrocket wrote:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and you have... love all

You ever think that people want to come to Warrington to win things? I know you probably share the same mentality of other 'below average' clubs, like London (in that you have to pay over the odds for very poor players to compensate for a drought of trophies) but don't assume Warrington do.

You'd be a fool to believe that a professional sportsman doesn't want to win something and you have way more chance of doing that at Warrington.

It's really quite simple.

You know, I bet if you squinted really, really hard and looked through a really expensive, really powerful telescope, I bet you could maybe see the Earth from that little fantasy planet you're living on there..

"players join Warrington just to win trophies and turn down bigger money offers to go elsewhere"....



Oh **** me.... My poor aching sides.... Gentlemen, we have a new all time low of comedy self-delusion...

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:42 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Do you mind sharing what that way might be (As there are plenty)?

Warrington players are paid in hugs, sugarcandy and fluffy kittens instead of money - that's how they cram so many more apparently expensive players into their squad than anyone else can somehow manage to.

At least Wigan were open and transparent in getting the laws of the game formally bent to allow them to keep Tomkins...

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:44 am  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

It would have been a risk, but I wish we had thrown the chequebook at Chris Hill last season. One of the best props in SL and was the best prop on the field on Monday and Saturday. We're crying out for a pack leader and he would have been a perfect replacement for Jammer.

Whatever the reason Chris Hill chose to come to Warrington, was he on anyone else's radar, we have a good relationship with Leigh, we were prepared to pay top dollar, Chris wanted to play for us and TS (or vice versa if you like)? He has been outstanding from Day 1 and would have been a great signing for any top SL side.

The Leigh speccies were right and it is a 'risk' that has never materialised.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:48 am  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

Warrington players are paid in hugs, sugarcandy and fluffy kittens instead of money - that's how they cram so many more apparently expensive players into their squad than anyone else can somehow manage to.

At least Wigan were open and transparent in getting the laws of the game formally bent to allow them to keep Tomkins...

A decent thread that has inevitably transcended into a Salary Cap none debate. Until proven otherwise, 'mudslingery' at its best.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:49 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Whatever the reason Chris Hill chose to come to Warrington, was he on anyone else's radar, we have a good relationship with Leigh, we were prepared to pay top dollar, Chris wanted to play for us and TS (or vice versa if you like)? He has been outstanding from Day 1 and would have been a great signing for any top SL side.

The Leigh speccies were right and it is a 'risk' that has never materialised.

I'm sure that one of the 'people in the know' on here said that we were going to sign him, but didn't want to pay a fee and then that's when you swooped in?

Massive error if that is true....although when we were talking about him on here and redvee last season I was sceptical of him I must admit....turned into a player with great potential.

A decent thread that has inevitably transcended into a Salary Cap none debate. Until proven otherwise, 'mudslingery' at its best.

That's the other thread tbf.

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:28 pm  

All the same sort of stuff about Warrington was being said on this forum a year ago until a Saints' fan did a player by player comparison of the squads and illustrated that the wage bill would be about the same.

If you sign an "out of contract" Michael Shenton and beat five other clubs to his signature you are going to be paying a higher slary than you would if you bought Ryan Atkins out of his Wakefield contract when there was over 12 months left. It would cost you a transfer fee but that doesn't go against the salary cap. Its all about value for money.

If Warrington use all these "cheats" around the salary cap how did Saints out bid us for Puletua?

Re: Warrington : Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:12 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I like the way Warrington play and rate Tony Smith, but TBH at their best I prefer Wigan's more structured approach (if anything I think their pack is a classic case where the sum of parts is better than the individuals). The key to beating any team of course is to put them under pressure - stopping them scoring or at least building an early lead is vital. Whether anyone can do that with Warrington remains to be seen though.

The fundamental issue with Wigan's pack is, their hooker isn't much cop.