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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:40 am  
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No irony In your post Is there?


No.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.

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Another classic:

[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.

Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.

Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666

0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".

Therefore ZERO.[/quote]

Give the girl her dummy back.

Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:39 am  
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:05 am  
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Gaskell was removed from the team because he isn't good enough!

Gaskell was removed from the team and that is all we actually know. He was in the firing line, of that there is no doubt, and keeping him out for a few weeks would have been wise so as to calm things down a little. However, there is clearly something else going on because he has now been out for months, bar a token 10 minutes at the end of a match the other week. However, given his performances last season and the way he kept battling to the end in the GF, I doubt very much it is his ability as a rugby league player that is keeping him out of the game. I rather think it is whinging senior players and a coach that is too close to them which is doing that.
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:42 am  
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Gaskell was removed from the team and that is all we actually know. He was in the firing line, of that there is no doubt, and keeping him out for a few weeks would have been wise so as to calm things down a little. However, there is clearly something else going on because he has now been out for months, bar a token 10 minutes at the end of a match the other week. However, given his performances last season and the way he kept battling to the end in the GF, I doubt very much it is his ability as a rugby league player that is keeping him out of the game. I rather think it is whinging senior players and a coach that is too close to them which is doing that.


Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing! His performances last season were average and if you stick me in a Grand Final team I would battle straight to the end and break bones for the honour doesn't mean i'm good enough though does it?
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:01 pm  
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Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing! His performances last season were average and if you stick me in a Grand Final team I would battle straight to the end and break bones for the honour doesn't mean i'm good enough though does it?


Except Gaskell clearly is.

Man of the match performances in knock out play off rugby against Wigan.

Would you do that?
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:27 pm  
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Except Gaskell clearly is.

Man of the match performances in knock out play off rugby against Wigan.

Would you do that?


Ah a smart booty.. Highlight the place I said I would be better than Gaskell and could do it? Gaskell is obviously a better player than me, a fan, just incase you needed that pointing out. He is not good enough for Saints and time will prove that he is not the next big thing.
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:44 pm  
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Gaskell was in the firing line for the same reason Hohaia is now and it's cause he wasn't performing!

He was performing but he was getting stick from the fans because the whole team was out of synch. However, you keep on thinking he was a dud if it suits you. His performances last season were very good for a newbie in an extremely tough position when he had no experienced halfback partner to guide him and an ever-changing team around him (due to injuries). He deserved better treatment than he has received this season and given that Hohaia is an international with tons of experience any comparison to him is worthless.
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:47 pm  
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Ah a smart booty.. Highlight the place I said I would be better than Gaskell and could do it? Gaskell is obviously a better player than me, a fan, just incase you needed that pointing out. He is not good enough for Saints and time will prove that he is not the next big thing.



Well I think Anderson playing him at hooker in the game, despite Hodgson pulling out for the exiles, after stating that he would have picked Lance at FB, if hodgson was not playing, just goes to show that coaches of all types just do not know what to do with him.
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:53 pm  
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He was performing but he was getting stick from the fans because the whole team was out of synch. However, you keep on thinking he was a dud if it suits you. His performances last season were very good for a newbie in an extremely tough position when he had no experienced halfback partner to guide him and an ever-changing team around him (due to injuries). He deserved better treatment than he has received this season and given that Hohaia is an international with tons of experience any comparison to him is worthless.



Yes the teams performances at the Start of the season did not help, but Gaskell had a few stinky games to. But other than that, I agree he did stuff right too where as Lance just does not do anything.

By that measure if Gaskell had spent his time just filling a hole in the line rather than trying to be productive, he would not have got the flack.

Personally I'd rather my half backs try some plays than just fill a shirt. If it don't come off at least you have made the opposition scramble to defend something.
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Re: Lance Hohaia at hooker : Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:14 pm  
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Yes the teams performances at the Start of the season did not help, but Gaskell had a few stinky games to. But other than that, I agree he did stuff right too where as Lance just does not do anything.

By that measure if Gaskell had spent his time just filling a hole in the line rather than trying to be productive, he would not have got the flack.

Personally I'd rather my half backs try some plays than just fill a shirt. If it don't come off at least you have made the opposition scramble to defend something.


I would rather see our halfbacks losing posession and making mistakes while being creative when nothing else is on but in Gaskell's case I can't think of anything except from that chip in the grand final. Don't get me wrong I hope he turns out world class but I just can't see it. The problem I see is the opposite to Lance who hardly ever takes the line on and looks lazy is Gaskell backs himself far too much and takes the line on leaving a huge overlap outwide and he does it in most games and a few times in the Grand Final. I hope this is something he can grow out of doing but he certainly isn't ready to take the 6 shirt no matter how much fans scream for his return to the team.

Back on topic though Lance looked better at 9 than he does at 6 but Roby has that covered and Makinson should take full back next year leaving Lance without a position. IMO he is too experienced to leave out of the team and obviously is a class player.
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