Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:13 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol:

Meli = alleged international, too many years on the clock, routinely lets us down in the big games esp grand finals (the last one for which I will never forgive him), is lazy and is a defensive liability usually when we most need him to be a rock.

Foster = not an international, one full season and a bit on the clock, a goal kicking legend (who kicked a penalty from halfway in the last grand final and didn't let us down), looks for work and until the early part of this season while physically at a disadvantage worked hard in defence.

Nah, I can't see why I would make 'excuses' for Foster but not Meli!

Foster is a paid pro, he's paid to play rugby as is Meli, he should have no excuse about the silly mistakes that cost us games just like Meli.

Jamie foster has played in big games, Jamie foster has played in two grand finals, Jamie foster was in the knights squad.

He's no excuse for dropping kicks on a regular basis. If in your view it's down to his age that's the reasoning for him being dropped, then rush made the right choice as he's obviously not ready.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:38 am  

Its simply the ascendency of Jones and Makinson, the latter now a proven kicker is keeping Foster out of selection, Foster may well be an improved player now but he will not be considered at the moment.
It may well as already mentioned be better for him if he goes out on loan, the problem is his only attribute to a superleague team will be of goal kicking nature.
Rugby Force =. Mass x Accelaration x Technique, Jamie Foster needs to work on all of these as he does not excel in any of these parameters. He needs to re focus and receive better coaching.
My problem is, is our club good enough to coach our younger players to that next level of class, that includes Lomax, Makinson, Jones , Swift, Ashe etc. with the right mental atitude.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:56 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

It is you who is indulging in the revisionist history. He had a very good season last season and I think you are the only one I have seen state that he didn't. He was a bit off form at the start of the season but that happens to all players at some point and it certainly isn't good enough reason to freeze him out for two months.

Meli was utterly lazy (again) yesterday and he is a liability in defence. Meli is never a better option.

You clearly must watch a different team to me as there is no way on the face of this earth you could possibly be watching Saints... You simply haven't got a ****ing clue and are just the kind of one-eyed kneejerk Saints fan that makes me want to weep...

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:59 am  

St pete wrote:

I find it strange you can crucify Meli for losing games due to his mistakes but you can make excuse for Jamie foster who has cost us games this year and possibly cost us a top four finish.

It's because she's a one-eyed fool with ludicrous pre-packaged opinions that will not change ever no matter what happens. There are depressingly many, many of them about. Don't let it get you down.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:10 am  

Foster did his job of filling tge wing berth and kicking goals for a couple of years. He hasn't made tge step up needed to become a top player, which is a shame, but part of tge natural selection process of being a pro sportsman, very few do make it. He'll do ok in tge championship and if he shines at a club like Leigh may earn another crack at super league with a Salford or wakey. Ship him out and move on.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:22 am  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

It's because she's a one-eyed fool with ludicrous pre-packaged opinions that will not change ever no matter what happens. There are depressingly many, many of them about. Don't let it get you down.

She certainly not getting me, it's amusing really

We all know Meli has/made mistakes in the past and I'm sure he will again in the future but at the moment he's doing on ok and certainly shouldn't be dropped based on the fact hes leaving as she posted.

Meli and foster are both paid rugby league players and should be tested the same if they make mistake. It's not like foster hadn't got any experience.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:33 am  

Jamie Foster is a one trick pony at the moment and although he does show a good team spirit, that's not enough. He is a grade A goal kicker, but his defence is only so so, his offence is the same. SL is not grid-iron a top player must have more than one attribute and though a top goal kicker can win you a tight game, he must have more to offer a side.
If he put more thought into improving the rest of his game and less in trying to look more like Dave Beckham, then he could be a half decent player, till then, Rush should leave him where he is.

Rock 'n' Roll.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:34 am  

It's simple, really. Meli has the shirt and should keep it until:

a) his current performances fall to a level that don't justify his selection and there's someone waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) who offers more, or;
b) someone is performing so outstandingly in the reserves to the point where they are impossible to ignore.

Neither applies currently.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:43 am  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

It's simple, really. Meli has the shirt and should keep it until:

a) his current performances fall to a level that don't justify his selection and there's someone waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) who offers more, or;
b) someone is performing so outstandingly in the reserves to the point where they are impossible to ignore.

Neither applies currently.

Re: The end of Jamie Foster? : Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:11 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Huh? I don't hear you criticising Jon Wilkin for having his shop! Foster has shown wisdom there that a lot of RL players don't display: he has taken steps to secure his future post rugby. Wilkin advised him.

Well, I hardly think playing in the u20s is going to give him a lot to say about the rugby is it? And since he has just opened a business he will want to promote it. Again, a wise move.

Are you being deliberately obtuse???

My post said that he needs to decide - the tweets about him kicking goals in the park with his grandad were hardly about first team games. With regard to the Wilkin comments - fair enough HOWEVER JW has been a regular first teamer for 10 years, has delivered consistently for that time and is probably one of the first names on the team sheet. He does bang on about his other interests but to be fair he is approaching a time where he needs to think about what he does after - Jamie IF HE WANTS IT has 12-15 years ahead of him, he hasnt made it yet and he needs to decide what he wants to do about it. His call I have no view as to what the right career is for him - but if it is RL at this stage in his career he need to focus.