Re: Lee Gaskell : Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:08 pm  

The thing to weigh up is can he get more out of playing week in week out for a SL/Championship team or will he get more from continuing playing for the U21's whilst training with the first team squad, and maybe coming back in towards the back end of the season/if injury hits?

Tough call!

Re: Lee Gaskell : Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:24 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

The thing to weigh up is can he get more out of playing week in week out for a SL/Championship team or will he get more from continuing playing for the U21's whilst training with the first team squad, and maybe coming back in towards the back end of the season/if injury hits?

Tough call!

very tough! i can't honestly see how playing behind a beaten pack nearly every game at widnes will help him, or how the U20's or National league will challenge him!

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:06 am  

All experience is good, take Paul Newlove or Paul Sculthorpe.
They did not play in title challenging sides before coming to Saints, but their class still showed.

I think Gaskell is our reserve halfback right now and its only been 2 games since he played. I think people are quick to jump the gun and read more than there is in this. How many SL teams have a half back under 23????

We had 2 for 5 games this year and whilst not moving the team to the best that it could be they where not disasters every week. If we go back to the Catalan game they pulled Catalan apart.

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:11 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

very tough! i can't honestly see how playing behind a beaten pack nearly every game at widnes will help him, or how the U20's or National league will challenge him!

I think Warrington's O'Brien is going well at Widnes.

Dropping down a league challenges you in different ways, I think. For a start, the older first team players are more physically challenging, which is especially good for the development of forwards (take Emmit for example), but Gaskell would have to pit his wits against some old heads who've a lot more experience of controlling a game.

It would probably do him good, but it could only be short term, since he's bound to feature for us again when someone gets injured, so you don't want him away from our team habit for too long.

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:37 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I think Warrington's O'Brien is going well at Widnes.

Dropping down a league challenges you in different ways, I think. For a start, the older first team players are more physically challenging, which is especially good for the development of forwards (take Emmit for example), but Gaskell would have to pit his wits against some old heads who've a lot more experience of controlling a game.

It would probably do him good, but it could only be short term, since he's bound to feature for us again when someone gets injured, so you don't want him away from our team habit for too long.

That is exactly what I was meaning in my earlier post...

IMO Gaskell is a great talent and I think he will develop into a quality player and make the 6 shirt at Saints his own, it could just be a good move to put him up against more experienced players rather than leaving him in U20's as playing against better opposition will help develop his game.

It will also give him more experience of leading a team around the field which I think a lack of that with Gaskell and Lomax was evident until Lance moved into the halves 2 weeks ago

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:56 pm  

Is gaskell finished finished at saints no wellens wheeler this week and can't make the squad makinson and Jones getting pick a head of him can't we see saints getting shut

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:00 pm  

1984saints wrote:

Is gaskell finished finished at saints no wellens wheeler this week and can't make the squad makinson and Jones getting pick a head of him can't we see saints getting shut

He's been out the first team for 3 weeks and he's finished, jes!!!!!!!

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:05 pm  

1984saints wrote:

Is gaskell finished finished at saints no wellens wheeler this week and can't make the squad makinson and Jones getting pick a head of him can't we see saints getting shut

In that case, surely Foster is finished too?

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:09 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

:lol:




He's been out the first team for 3 weeks and he's finished, jes!!!!!!!

Not just three games is it it's three of the biggest games of the season under Royce he seemed to play everyweek under these two he not even made one Squad

Re: Lee Gaskell : Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:10 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

In that case, surely Foster is finished too?

Along with

Andrew Dixon
Scott Hale
Nathan Ashe
Carl Forster
Danny Jones
Joe Greenwood
Anthony Walker
Jordan Hand


If Wellens had not been banned Makinson would also be added to that list and Magennis must have been on it for a fair few weeks at the start of the year. Basically your either playing or sacked.