Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:13 am  

McClennan wrote:

If I was appointed coach at Saints I'd assemble my crack team.

My Appointments

Saddened: When we lose I'd take on the pre-match and post-match interviews because I'd know what to say in there to stop the internet forums burning up with silly talk. When we win though I'd send Saddened out because he's not just another Mike Phelan. Where I would have a tendency to play down the success until we've actually achieved our goal of winning the final game of the Super League season, Saddened's enthusiasm for victory and the subsequent proclamation of it being a vision on grass would provide a feel good feeling after every win as well as numerous quotable soundbites to be used on posters for future big clashes e.g. for that August Monday clash versus Wire "I've lived in Warrington, it's just one big giant retail park populated by Mungos walking around in substandard Leeds tops."

SaintsFan: If I'm going to be a success I need somebody to counter the Deputy Downers that hang around the club. I think SaintsFan has a contagious and positive approach to the team which, not only do I love, but realise it could be beneficial to us. Also the fact that my surname isn't Potter should get her onside pretty quickly and given the right level of supervision her talents could be well served in a dressing room looking for confidence.

Legendary Supporter/Despondent Dave/The Chair Maker: Any successful coach needs some statistical analysis and any one of these three could provide detail of that slip-up away in Yorkshire, on a Tuesday night, in the 80s. Each has their own specialism but it would be a close run interview process I'm sure.

Rogues Gallery: Controversial, but he'd be my main scout. After all through the ages he's seen the very best and has a track record identifying talent that most others just can't see e.g. Michael McIlorum, George Carmont and many others as detailed in his new book Wigoon's Starting XIII from 1999-2009: A Decade in the Wilderness.

Ski: Kit man, particularly shirts. Risky choice I know but he'll come up good after good learning from previous experience.

MM,
Thank you so much form your kind offer but I will have to turn it down. It would be impossible for me to work with such a set of amateurs.

Had you included Mugwump, Don Brennan and No.1 Saint in that coaching set up I may have been tempted.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 pm  

Div wrote:

Paul Wellens, MOM by a country mile at full back last Saturday, just for those that missed it.

Yes, yes, yes very good. Give him a pat on the head and a lolly pop.Bradford away were prime conditions for Donk. Heavy under foot against a team that make us look quick.

Having said that he did have a very good game and was the MOM for us by a distance. But lets be honest if he couldn't come up with a good performance when all the conditions were so much in his favour he would need taking behind the sheds and shouting for dog food.

On a sad note it shows what a good player he could have been if he had some pace.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:14 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

What was it for then? Don't tell me you are one of the eight or nine people on here that I've not convinced that Wello is overdue for replacement.

I agree he is coming to the end of his career but I do still think he is a decent option frankly,yes. He did far more than just defend last Saturday.

Some people seem to think its all about pace running the ball out and thats it. Wello has other attributes and the job also involves marshalling the defence too, especially the threequarters who are in certain circles very young and inexperienced.

Lomax, Makinson ,Ashe, etc may be quicker and may well over time turn into excellent full backs but they have a lot to learn. Are they as safe in defence ? Do they have Wello's positioning ? Can they take all the high balls ? Can they marshall the lads in front of them in defence ?

This game is not as one dimensional as some people make out. Simmons thought he was the best man for the job, if he is selected again this week at number 1 are you suggesting Rush and KC don't know what they are doing as well ?

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:15 pm  

Noel Cleal wrote:

On a sad note it shows what a good player he could have been if he had some pace.

He has been a great player without the pace.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:26 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Why don't we reregister Murphy and Van Vollenhoven too while we're at it?

I'm just stirring.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:57 pm  

Div wrote:

I agree he is coming to the end of his career but I do still think he is a decent option frankly,yes. He did far more than just defend last Saturday.

Some people seem to think its all about pace running the ball out and thats it. Wello has other attributes and the job also involves marshalling the defence too, especially the threequarters who are in certain circles very young and inexperienced.

Lomax, Makinson ,Ashe, etc may be quicker and may well over time turn into excellent full backs but they have a lot to learn. Are they as safe in defence ? Do they have Wello's positioning ? Can they take all the high balls ? Can they marshall the lads in front of them in defence ?

This game is not as one dimensional as some people make out. Simmons thought he was the best man for the job, if he is selected again this week at number 1 are you suggesting Rush and KC don't know what they are doing as well ?

Nobody is questioning the qualities that does possess because he has those in spades. Unfortunately his deficiencies are exposed at the highest level. We'll see on Sunday anyway because I don't think we've won this year since Wellens came back into the full back berth have we?

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:20 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Nobody is questioning the qualities that does possess because he has those in spades. Unfortunately his deficiencies are exposed at the highest level. We'll see on Sunday anyway because I don't think we've won this year since Wellens came back into the full back berth have we?

nope, he's yet to win a game. Not all his fault mind, but all he does seem to do is wave his arms about and scream at the ref.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:31 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

nope, he's yet to win a game. Not all his fault mind, but all he does seem to do is wave his arms about and scream at the ref.

I agreed with you about that prior to Saturday but he actually decided to play on Saturday, and played very well. Pity he didn't do that earlier. Others might have gotten the idea and followed suit.

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:38 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

:lol:
I'm just stirring.

The problem is that others say it seriously

Re: If you were offered the Head coach's job - : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:45 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I agreed with you about that prior to Saturday but he actually decided to play on Saturday, and played very well. Pity he didn't do that earlier. Others might have gotten the idea and followed suit.

Shame he was at fault for the 8 point try though.

He wasn't quick enough across the pitch and then made a hash of the challenge with Pryce for the ball. He then finished it in his well worn fashion (as pointed out by Simon) waving his arms and shouting at the ref.

That try wouldn't have been scored 4 years ago, he'd have got to the ball first. It's yet another sign that his positional sense is no longer enough to cover his lack of pace.