Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:37 pm  

Dixon - Excellent for me

Lomax - Solid performance

Gaskell - Poop. No concept that there are 12 other players on the park that he can actually pass to. For a stand off that is about the worst attribute you can have.

Makinson - Solid Performance. Needs to practice kicking goals to displace Foster IMO.

Wheeler - Looked the pick of the youngsters for me. Always looked dangerous

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:38 pm  

I have liked Dixon ever since he first came onto the scene. He very rarely makes a mistake and plays his weight. As he gets bigger and stronger he will certainly improve and could be a real star in the making.

Makinson's Goal kicking is no problem for me, he was probably a little nervous last night and will improve as the season goes on because there will be no place for Foster if all the backs are fit. I am not sure if Wheeler has a good kicking game but if he has I would love to see him at six with his ability to beat the first man.

At the moment Saints have an outstanding set of young players; long may it continue.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:26 pm  

I'd like to see Wheeler at Stand Off or Full Back. If he's in the game more I think he could be the difference in some games just like Tomkins for Wigan. For me when we are fully fit Gaskell wouldn't get in the team.

Lomax is doing well at Scrum Half for us but if we do for some strange reason rest Roby i'd like to see him have a spell there.

Dixon is a quality player for me and is only going to get better with age.

One I am looking forward to is Magennis who seemed to put himself about a lot in the academy and didn't look out of place against Widnes. Showed great strength and loves to offload.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:18 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I'm just waiting to hear from the six or seven regular muppets who've slagged Dixon off for the best part of two years.

Ditto......... For Gardner as well.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:34 pm  

Theres no chance foster would be ahead of makinson just because of his goal kicking.
Be interesting when Shenton and wello are back.
The team certainly doesnt pick itself this year.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:05 am  

Dixon was excellent again, Makinson proved once again what an excellent defender he is with a number of superb tackles including several potential try saving ones and his goal kicking was adequate at least. Wheeler keeps showing that he could be as good as we've heard he might turn out to be, with a great step off both feet and good upper body strength. Lomax and Gaskell were solid despite playing behind a beaten pack in the first half.

Without wanting to turn this into another Foster debate, I saw nothing last night to suggest that Jamie Foster would be kept out of the team on a regular basis at least on the flank he has been playing on. If anything, my thoughts that Meli is a large factor in the defensive problems down that side were confirmed. Ade played well, especially for his first full game back, and he runs the ball in with much more conviction these days.

As I posted on redvee... for once we seem to have genuine options in the backs with versatility in styles which could, theoretically, allow us to tailor the team both to our AND the oppositions strengths and weaknesses.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:24 am  

TheVee wrote:

I'd like to see Wheeler at Stand Off or Full Back. If he's in the game more I think he could be the difference in some games just like Tomkins for Wigan. For me when we are fully fit Gaskell wouldn't get in the team.

Hear, hear - I've been saying exactly the same for the last year, usually being roundly mocked in the process. Wheeler is one of the best talents in the game, and would have a #6 on his back for both Saints and GB/England/Whatever they're called at the moment right now (with Gaskell out on loan developing at Leigh) if he could've stayed fit even a little bit over the last 18 months. Gaskell may develop into a fine player, but isn't quite there yet and just simply isn't and never will be in the same class talent-wise as Wheeler. I think he's frankly wasted playing at centre and will carve many, many teams to pieces if he gets the ball in his hands more often at #6. Dear God, please let him stay fit this season...

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:32 am  

i think hohaia should start from the bench and you to start makinson at full back, hohaia doesent really run at the defence he seems to jog or look for the pass where as makinson runs hards into gaps i think saints should play foster and gardner and makinson at fullback with roby and hohaia interchanging at hooker at roby pushing into loose, by the way perry is gash hes a slouch and how he was an australian international i do not know he never made no yards what so ever id stick with clough and laffranci

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:43 am  

Wire_91 wrote:

i think hohaia should start from the bench and you to start makinson at full back, hohaia doesent really run at the defence he seems to jog or look for the pass where as makinson runs hards into gaps i think saints should play foster and gardner and makinson at fullback with roby and hohaia interchanging at hooker at roby pushing into loose, by the way perry is gash hes a slouch and how he was an australian international i do not know he never made no yards what so ever id stick with clough and laffranci

Perry was a top quality prop when we signed him. He was the current Aussie prop at the time, playing state of origin and also prop in the best side in the NRL.

He's missed nearly 18 month due to injuries and looks to be struggling to get his match fitness back. All his injuries have been to his legs so he's not been able to keep any sort of fitness up while he's been out.

I honestly don't think he's going to regain full fitness and be the prop that we had signed. It's a shame for both the club and player if this is the case.

Re: Dixon, and youngsters. : Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:53 am  

saintcj wrote:

Theres no chance foster would be ahead of makinson just because of his goal kicking.
Be interesting when Shenton and wello are back.
The team certainly doesnt pick itself this year.

I think the majority viewpoint is that Makinson in his present form is in the first 13 selection. In the short term I am glad Wello is returning, this is because of the last 3 games it's worrying that we have no team leader presence, something that we need in the tough close games coming up.
If the back line suffers no injuries, then I reckon Royce will have a problem in getting each position into a set role for his game plans. At the moment we have too many "free spirit" players in Gaskell, Lomax and Lance, we need a "tommy Martyn" in the side and that player is Wheeler at 6.
In my opinion Meli should be dropped from the 17 when Shenton returns, I,ll keep on saying it that if we have Gardner and Foster on the wings then Makinson should come inside to centre......he,s good enough.