Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:20 am  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

One of the benefits of having a kicker as good as Foster in the side is that he turns pretty much every 4 points into 6. Is this a good enough reason to keep him in the team if his all round game isn't that great? It's a tricky call. Ade may offer us more in terms of a better all round team performance, but we'll miss those collective points as well if he's not out there to kick.

I know one swallow doesn't make a summer, but Makinson's kicking was brilliant at Quins.

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:28 am  

Longys full sleeve wrote:

He has pace in a bundance but there is no point having pace if you can't catch the feckin ball. No game awareness at all, No awareness of how a winger should play (in fact I'm sure Mr.Blobby has more nouse when it comes down to how to play the game) Came from Yawnion therefore a real lack in core skills...

Sounds awful. When you say he can't catch, to you mean passes or kicks? The reports I've read made it sound like he was a real threat when used under the high ball in attack.

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:38 am  

Either to be perfectly honest. On the website it does make him out to be some sort out wonderkid attacking a high ball and scoring a try. But i guess 1/10 oppertunities isn't exactly clinical pal.

Between me and you i think you and I could put in better performances, and I suffer with chronic artheritis

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:39 am  

I dont totally agree with the decision, but I can see the logic behind it. If he is on significantly less cash, then we have 3 wingers in the squad, with good coverage at centre and full back. Had we let Gardner go then as soon as a centre or winger gets injured we would have to promote an even younger lad, play someone out of position, or play Tom Armstrong - none of which are desirable.

Assuming that Foster gets a pay rise and Gardner takes a cut, the net effect of the deal in salary cap terms shouldnt change too much.

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:44 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Good move if on less cash IMO.

We complain a lot about a thin squad, but then we also complain when we re-sign players who are solid but not world beaters on (assumedly) less cash - which is how you end up with a stronger squad.

He was excellent prior to his injury and provides good competition for places. No issues on this from me.

More to the point, delighted to see Magennis get another 2 years.

really??? Magennis is Wheeler MK2 - impossible to judge until he can string more than half a dozen games together. 1 year would have been right for him.

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:50 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

I know one swallow doesn't make a summer, but Makinson's kicking was brilliant at Quins.

It was. We have a very able alternative there by the looks of it.

Re: Ade Gardner : Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:23 pm  

Longys full sleeve wrote:

Either to be perfectly honest. On the website it does make him out to be some sort out wonderkid attacking a high ball and scoring a try. But i guess 1/10 oppertunities isn't exactly clinical pal.

Between me and you i think you and I could put in better performances, and I suffer with chronic artheritis

Aah well, that's dissapointing, but I guess the match reports aren't there to tell us the bad things about our youngsters.

Re: Ade Gardner : Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:43 am  

It speaks volumes about the standard of RL in Britain that a guy like Gardner - who apart from a brief 18 month period - has never offered the club anything out of the ordinary can be an unchallenged fixture at a top club for a decade.

Re: Ade Gardner : Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:36 pm  

St pete wrote:

Big pay cut by all accounts

but still more than he could get elsewhere no doubt or are we claiming a Radlinkski like "for the love of the club" deal?

Re: Ade Gardner : Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:06 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

but still more than he could get elsewhere no doubt or are we claiming a Radlinkski like "for the love of the club" deal?

Gdm played for free (if you believe 'honest' Maurice Lindsey) Ade will be getting something