Re: A prop : Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:19 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

To be fair to him though I think he played twice in the first team and one of those occasions was for 10 minutes against Wigan at the DW when we were slowly losing the game! (Thanks to Foster we held on to a win)

Oh yeah, I don't mean because he was poor, but he couldn't get the chances due to other front row players (although I think he was tauted as back row at first).
Looking back, releasing Fozzard, Hargreaves, Emmit and Johnson all at the same time may have been careless, although this has merely added to the frustration of injuries to senior players, as well as Forster and then the further derailment of the great white hope, Gaz Frodsham. To be honest, I think we should give Frodsham one last roll of his dice before his contract is up.

I've just noted that Ben Davies is OOC at Wigan. The lads at Widnes we're very comlimentary about the time he spent there.

Re: A prop : Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:00 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Longer contract? Guaranteed first team rugby (which is a quicker route to a material pay rise if you're confident in your ability)?

If that was the case he'd still be at Saints Id have thought.

Re: A prop : Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:04 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I've just noted that Ben Davies is OOC at Wigan. The lads at Widnes we're very comlimentary about the time he spent there.

Your correct he was tearing it up in the Championship last year. Great footwork for a prop as well as being pacy, with a great work ethic and highly aggressive. All the things you want to see any prop, let alone a youngster.

Unfortunately he broke his hand at the beginning of this season, and after a reasonable absence he's suffered to replicate last years form. He looks to have put a bit of chub on as well which won't be helping his cause.

A few Wigan's fans would be happy to see him leave. However I'd like to see him kept at Wigan. I think he's shown some good signs when ever I've seen him play. I think it's just a case as it is with all youngsters but particularly young props that he needs to improve his consistency. Plus Wigan need to give him time to develop.

Re: A prop : Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:42 pm  

We are defo 100% a specialist prop short next year. We will go with perry and lms as starting props with either TP or laffranchi as the prop/loose role. TP, laffranchi, perry, lms and clough are good players but IMO we need a good, big hard prop.

Clough and laffranchi are backrows by trade and TP ain't really your tough no nonsense prop that will battle his way down the middle.

It's a shame we ain't got a quota spot as west tigers prop Bruce Gibbs would be a revelation in super league.

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:59 am  

St pete wrote:

TP, laffranchi, perry, lms and clough are good players but IMO we need a good, big hard prop.

If you only needed 17 players for a season, I'd be very happy with these. The problem is that as soon as one of those get injured, we all of a sudden look extremely short of weight.
One prop - doesn't have to be a world beater, just solid and heavy - would be a real tonic at the moment. Paul Johnson would be a good target, assuming he didn't take the knock when he left - surely he could be tempted back to play amongst his old team mates, shiny new stadium, first team oppotunities? That's taking for granted that Wakey are shafted as far as SL goes.

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:16 am  

PJ was let go for a reason, surely the powers that be have seen something in some of the U20/18. I could imagine that some of those will be getting the opportunity next season. Id rather see us using these kids then bring back a player we released a season before because he was deemed not good enough.

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:23 am  

Don Brennan wrote:

If that was the case he'd still be at Saints Id have thought.

He wouldn't be in the fist choice Saints XVII, he most certainly is at Cas. Being a top 2 prop at a weaker team is worth more to the wallet than being 6th choice at a big club.

It's easy to blame the club for not keeping Emmitt, but in all honesty he's made the right move - more rugby and most probably a fair bit more cash. There was little that Saints could realistically offer him that would make staying at Saints a better career move than leaving for Cas.

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:45 am  

ashy_06 wrote:

PJ was let go for a reason, surely the powers that be have seen something in some of the U20/18.

Your probably right, I'm just getting giddy. Johnson's obviously worked hard, but his stats don't show anything out of the ordinary in terms of go forward, unlike Emmit.

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:13 am  

Wigan have signed Ben Cross until the end of the season. http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3568321

Wigan have signed Ben Cross until the end of the season. http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3568321

Re: A prop : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:25 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Wigan have signed Ben Cross until the end of the season. http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3568321 Sheesh, not a bad move. Not sure that you need him, or is feilden out for long? If Perry is out for the season, it would have been good for us. I know he's had his knockers, but certainly in our game at headingly he looked pretty good.

Rogues Gallery wrote: Wigan have signed Ben Cross until the end of the season. http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3568321 Sheesh, not a bad move. Not sure that you need him, or is feilden out for long? If Perry is out for the season, it would have been good for us. I know he's had his knockers, but certainly in our game at headingly he looked pretty good.