Re: Wilkin : Wed May 04, 2011 2:44 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

The workhorse thing is something forced on him by the genius Potter , hopefully he'll get his shot at Loose when we start getting people back

That was started by the genius Anderson, who preferred Flannery at loose IIRC.

Re: Wilkin : Wed May 04, 2011 3:18 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

I mean anonymous as in the Good Friday derby. Where Wilkin was completely and utterly anonymous. As opposed Hoffman who tore to pieces Gardner, Shenton and Lomax, and was without doubt the best backrower on the pitch.

Seeing as you've compared Wlkin against Hoffman. How about we compare Wlkin against Liam Farrel. A youngster with less than 50 games against his name. Liam makes more meters per carrie, more tackles and marker tackles per match. With less missed tackles and less mistakes. All from a guy who plays 40 minutes a match compared to Wilkin's 80.

Wilkin is far from anonymous - he's a hard working back rower who does some fabulous work for his team, in the same way that Hansen does for you, with the added benefit of having a crack at the halves when needed.

He's having an excellent year and was in tip top form before his injury, and is playing well again now he's back. To say he is anonymous is just plain daft, but not unexpected.

Re: Wilkin : Wed May 04, 2011 3:45 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

I mean anonymous as in the Good Friday derby. Where Wilkin was completely and utterly anonymous. As opposed Hoffman who tore to pieces Gardner, Shenton and Lomax, and was without doubt the best backrower on the pitch.

Seeing as you've compared Wlkin against Hoffman. How about we compare Wlkin against Liam Farrel. A youngster with less than 50 games against his name. Liam makes more meters per carrie, more tackles and marker tackles per match. With less missed tackles and less mistakes. All from a guy who plays 40 minutes a match compared to Wilkin's 80.

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Re: Wilkin : Wed May 04, 2011 3:52 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

That was started by the genius Anderson, who preferred Flannery at loose IIRC.

Correct. The most overrated coach of the Super League era, without a shadow of a doubt.

I hope Wilkin kicks on in his natural position when he returns to it.

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 1:19 am  

Smurf wrote:

Correct. The most overrated coach of the Super League era, without a shadow of a doubt.

So, out of ALL the past and present SL coaches you unequivocally select GF Winner, GF Runner Up, three-time CC winner, World Club Challenge Winner - Daniel Anderson - the man who, in his opening season, transformed a perennially leaky Saints defence into the meanest SL had ever seen?

Are you credible?

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 1:24 am  

Mugwump wrote:

So, out of ALL the past and present SL coaches you unequivocally select GF Winner, GF Runner Up, three-time CC winner, World Club Challenge Winner - Daniel Anderson - the man who, in his opening season, transformed a perennially leaky Saints defence into the meanest SL had ever seen?

Are you credible?

You can remember all that at 2:19am?

I'm not quite sure what my own name is right about now.

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 11:43 am  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Seeing as you've compared Wlkin against Hoffman. How about we compare Wlkin against Liam Farrel. A youngster with less than 50 games against his name. Liam makes more meters per carrie, more tackles and marker tackles per match. With less missed tackles and less mistakes. All from a guy who plays 40 minutes a match compared to Wilkin's 80.

Only a dimwit would compare statistics for two players, one of whom is able to play at full tilt (without fatigue) for the entire duration of his spell(s) whilst the other performs the same duties (and often those of a halfback) - fully fatigued and in a variety of positions (which affects the number of marker tackles he will make) for the entire match.

If we want a fair comparison let's see how Farrell performs over a full eighty minutes - one week after playing the same at stand-off whilst also assuming the responsibility of primary place kicker..

I think we both know who'll come out on top.

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 12:17 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

If we want a fair comparison let's see how Farrell performs over a full eighty minutes - one week after playing the same at stand-off whilst also assuming the responsibility of primary place kicker..

I think we both know who'll come out on top.

whilst we are there lets compare how Wayne Rooney compares in goals against Petr Chec next weekend - equally unlikely to happen.

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 12:31 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

So, out of ALL the past and present SL coaches you unequivocally select GF Winner, GF Runner Up, three-time CC winner, World Club Challenge Winner - Daniel Anderson - the man who, in his opening season, transformed a perennially leaky Saints defence into the meanest SL had ever seen?

Are you credible?

I was talking Saints coaches, not all Super League coaches (that would, obviously, be ridiculous). Plus, yes I am credible, absolutely.

I don't think you can add Grand Final runner up to his list of successes with the side he had, either. He is simply not the coach that fans make him out to be.

Re: Wilkin : Fri May 06, 2011 1:11 pm  

nikos wrote:

whilst we are there lets compare how Wayne Rooney compares in goals against Petr Chec next weekend - equally unlikely to happen.

WHOOSH