Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:47 am  

God wears the Red Vee wrote:

Under the cap rules, if a player is long serving (can't remember the exact number of years) doesn't only half their salary count towards the cap?
If so, we are trying to replace KC, Scully and Longy on half the wages we were actually paying them.

Nope. There is 50 grand that can be a reduction on players wages with over 10 years service. Thats 50 grand in total not each player. But you could spend it on one or many players with over 10 years.

The rhinos have sini, senior, Jjb, Bailey, burrow, McGuire. Disco goo until he moved on.

So say senior who will be on reduced terms, may only be taking up 20 grand on the cap but getting 70K but no reduction on anyone else.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:50 am  

sgtwilko wrote:

Nope. There is 50 grand that can be a reduction on players wages with over 10 years service. Thats 50 grand in total not each player. But you could spend it on one or many players with over 10 years.

This is correct, at Warrington we have Jon Clarke, Lee Briers and Paul Wood all with more than 10 years service but we are only allowed £50,000 in total spread across one or more players.

Seems a shame really that if a player stays at a club for ten years then the club should be given an incentive to keep him on the cap by allowing £50,000 for each player.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:13 pm  

There is also (as an extra to the 10 year allowance) a £50K allowance for the top earner who has come through your academy system.
I would guess Roby at Saints, Burrow or McGuire at Leeds, O'loughlin at Wigan, Paul Wood at Wire.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:34 pm  

Trav2005 wrote:

can we just put up a white flag, how many more bloody injuries. At this rate we might have one first teamer in the squad for the next home match.

We are not scrapping the barrel with our kids as some doom mongers would suggest


1. Wellens (1st choice)
2. Gardner (1st choice)
3. Shenton (1st choice)
4. Wheeler / Lomax (1st choice)weirdly enough
5. Meli (1st choice)
6. Gaskell
7. Wheeler / Lomax
8. Perry (1st choice)
9. Roby (1st choice)
10. Graham (1st choice)
11. Flannery (1st choice)
12. Puletua (1st choice)
13. Moore (2nd choice but not youth player anymore international hooker with many years of experience at SL)

14. Clough (1st choice)
15. Ashurst
16. Magennis / LMS
17. Foster (should be on the field IMO, but a kid all the same)

So I make that 11 first choice players. We are hardly in a war with this casualty list.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:53 pm  

Dux and I watched a game from last year on record t'other week, and the line up whas very ropey. We're doing alright, I just think the amount of shuffling round messrs Wheeler/Lomax/Eastmond/Gaskell/ Foster have done over the past 2 years has meant that we don't really know (or perhaps are confident in knowing) what our actual starting line up should be.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:14 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

6. Gaskell
7. Wheeler / Lomax

Maybe not scraping the barrel overall, but the above is the real negative.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:28 pm  

MickeyMo wrote:

Maybe not scraping the barrel overall, but the above is the real negative.

Lomax got some extra responsibilty in a game towards the end of las t season (was it Bradford at home?) and had a stormer! Maybe moving him closer in with Wheels in the centre will help bring out his best.
Gaskell is a good 1st receiver and although his kicking is inconsistant, it does have potential, so will hopefully improve as he gets more game time.
The key (as so often) in the forward. If we defend with authority and crash the ball up well, make the offloads and the back row offer the runners, our young half backs will have a chance.
If the forwards play like they did last week, it would be a case of our youngster not standing a chance.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:02 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

We are not scrapping the barrel with our kids as some doom mongers would suggest


1. Wellens (1st choice)
2. Gardner (1st choice)
3. Shenton (1st choice)
4. Wheeler / Lomax (1st choice)weirdly enough
5. Meli (1st choice)
6. Gaskell
7. Wheeler / Lomax
8. Perry (1st choice)
9. Roby (1st choice)
10. Graham (1st choice)
11. Flannery (1st choice)
12. Puletua (1st choice)
13. Moore (2nd choice but not youth player anymore international hooker with many years of experience at SL)

14. Clough (1st choice)
15. Ashurst
16. Magennis / LMS
17. Foster (should be on the field IMO, but a kid all the same)

So I make that 11 first choice players. We are hardly in a war with this casualty list.

alright don't throw your handbag.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:05 pm  

Don't know if it is anywhere else on this thread but I noticed in the St. Helens Star that Clough is or has been suffering from tonsilitis. Hope he is OK to play on Saturday.

Re: 19 Man Squad for Leeds : Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:07 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Don't know if it is anywhere else on this thread but I noticed in the St. Helens Star that Clough is or has been suffering from tonsilitis. Hope he is OK to play on Saturday.

Luckily you don't need much talking in a Leeds match. Anything above 2 syllables would confuse these Yorkshire folk.