Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:04 pm  

St pete wrote:

Yes good idea, don't sign manu because he's 33 next year but let's sign hindmarsh who's 33 THIS year has played his whole career in the toughest league in the world.

Plus he's quota.

You got me there.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:25 pm  

Jordan turner to you lot

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:25 pm  

Jordan turner to you lot

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:38 pm  

hullandbroncos wrote:

Jordan turner to you lot

That'd be nice

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:43 pm  

hullandbroncos wrote:

Jordan turner to you lot

He's a typical outside back that brown would go for. He's young, fast, big, powerfull and has raw talent.

He'd be good replacement for Meli.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:04 pm  

St pete wrote:

He's a typical outside back that brown would go for. He's young, fast, big, powerfull and has raw talent.

He'd be good replacement for Meli.

Couldnt tackle a salad though.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:06 pm  

fc baldy wrote:

Couldnt tackle a salad though.

An ideal replacement for Meli then!

Re: Rumours thread. : Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:57 am  

Back to Manu, I'd say he's exactly the type of player we need.

We don't need more hard tackling forwards. We need forwards who can offload and bust through, giving us that 2nd phase.

If you compare him to another 2nd rower say Sia, then his stats out perform him last year and this on all counts, less penalties, less missed tackles, more meters, more offloads, more busts, etc etc.

I think Saints fans and Saints as a club have become a little obsessed with ages. We can't have a team of 18-28 year olds, if we where saying a 3 year deal then fair enough it would be concerning, but on a 1 or 2 year deal. It's good business to sign one of the best in SL.

Re: Rumours thread. : Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:26 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Back to Manu, I'd say he's exactly the type of player we need.

We don't need more hard tackling forwards. We need forwards who can offload and bust through, giving us that 2nd phase.

If you compare him to another 2nd rower say Sia, then his stats out perform him last year and this on all counts, less penalties, less missed tackles, more meters, more offloads, more busts, etc etc.

I think Saints fans and Saints as a club have become a little obsessed with ages. We can't have a team of 18-28 year olds, if we where saying a 3 year deal then fair enough it would be concerning, but on a 1 or 2 year deal. It's good business to sign one of the best in SL.

I was shocked when I saw he was 32, he's certainly not looking a 32 year old that's at the end of his career. He took us apart a Langtree park.

Our pack is getting on a little with perry, Laffranchi, TP all over 30 but as long as they are doing it on the fieid then age is just a number.

Re: Rumours thread. : Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:26 am  

The pack is getting on, if you read it like that.

But then LMS, Clough, Wilkin, Roby, Flanaghan, Sia. They are all under 30.

So the balance age wise is fine, for me it's the balance in ability that's the issue. Too many decent hard working forwards, who will tackle all day. Not enough, offloaders etc.

It's ok having 1 or 2 bulldozers trundling it up, but if they are all doing that well there in lies the problem with the pack. For me the pack makes good yards they all tackle well, but that bit extra is missing. TP can do it, but he's about the only one who gives us an offload or makes a clean break.

In 2011 Willie Manu made 13 clean breaks. Josh Perry zero, LMS=3, Clough=1, TP=5, James Graham = 4.

So our entire front row last year made the same number of clean breaks as Manu. Sia only made 4 too. It's too much of the same from everyone.

Offloads 43 from Manu. Josh Perry = 12, LMS=9, Clough=2, TP=20 , James Graham = 23.

We don't need 6 players like Manu, but we don't need 6 players like LMS either. We need a mix of hard workers who will do the rough tough stuff and those can sprinkle that bit extra.