Re: Rumours thread. : Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:12 pm  

Smurf wrote:

But whilst you are (for some unknown reason) bringing it up, I'd say one final considering the squad he had when he arrived is pretty decent progress.

Saints fans invariably judge the success of a coach on the silverware he brings. That's why I'm bringing it up. He has brought none to Hudds.

I don't know what the squad was like when he first came in but last season they still couldn't get to a final.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:01 am  

Brown certainly appears to be the best UK based coach available and I wouldn't displeased about his appointment. I had a lot more concerns over Simmons. However, I'd be disappointed if one of the most prestigious clubs in the sport didn't compare his capability to other coaches who may be interested. Mr Big pulled off a stunner with Daniel Anderson and if we're going to move forward we need that kind of visionary thinking again. Brown and KC working together though must mean that we'll have a succession of great hookers coming through or we should.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:08 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He has brought none to Hudds.

But neither have a lot of coaches...?

When appointing a coach you go off what he has achieved with the squad they have had to deal with and the way that they play: Brown certainly has made Huddersfield the club they are now and they play some good rugby.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:15 pm  

Joe Arundel to Hull
Danny Brough to Wigan
John Bateman to Warrington
Francis Meli to Widnes
Glen Fisiiahi to St Helens

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:05 pm  

Albion wrote:

But neither have a lot of coaches...?

When appointing a coach you go off what he has achieved with the squad they have had to deal with and the way that they play: Brown certainly has made Huddersfield the club they are now and they play some good rugby.

Why quote that bit of my post without the rest of it? I said that Saints fans invariably judge a coach on the silverware he brings. Brown hasn't brought any to Hudds in three years. Therefore, I can't see many Saints fans believing that to be an appropriate coach for Saints.

Personally, I'm not bothered who we appoint as they're all an unknown quantity until they get down to the job and any possible candidate will now be on notice that Saints have stupidly high expectations and are prepared to sack them seven games in following a GF appearance against all the odds. I'm sure that will attract candidates from all over the place.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:06 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Joe Arundel to Hull
Danny Brough to Wigan
John Bateman to Warrington
Francis Meli to Widnes
Glen Fisiiahi to St Helens

What would we do with fisiiahi?

I've always thought joe arundel has great potential.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:33 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Joe Arundel to Hull
Danny Brough to Wigan
John Bateman to Warrington
Francis Meli to Widnes
Glen Fisiiahi to St Helens

excellent rumours there, did you make all of them up yourself?

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:38 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

excellent rumours there, did you make all of them up yourself?

Meli to Widnes might be true, I've got a feeling he won't be at saints anyway

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:58 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Why quote that bit of my post without the rest of it? I said that Saints fans invariably judge a coach on the silverware he brings. Brown hasn't brought any to Hudds in three years. Therefore, I can't see many Saints fans believing that to be an appropriate coach for Saints.

Personally, I'm not bothered who we appoint as they're all an unknown quantity until they get down to the job and any possible candidate will now be on notice that Saints have stupidly high expectations and are prepared to sack them seven games in following a GF appearance against all the odds. I'm sure that will attract candidates from all over the place.

What had McRae won prior to coming to Saints? Or Hanley? Or Millward? Or Anderson? Or Potter? Or Simmons? Were all those appointments seen as inappropriate?

Brown has taken a cellar dweller club to a consistent top 4 finisher and got to a cup final with far less resources than his competitors in those areas.

Re: Rumours thread. : Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:11 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Why quote that bit of my post without the rest of it? I said that Saints fans invariably judge a coach on the silverware he brings. Brown hasn't brought any to Hudds in three years. Therefore, I can't see many Saints fans believing that to be an appropriate coach for Saints.

I can edit it if you want to quote the rest of it...?

The point still stands that not many coaches have gained success, so to say the overall view from saints fans (based on that) is that his impending appointment is inappropriate is ridiculous.

To quote Billinge_Lump: 'What had McRae won prior to coming to Saints? Or Hanley? Or Millward? Or Anderson? Or Potter? Or Simmons? Were all those appointments seen as inappropriate?'

SaintsFan wrote:

any possible candidate will now be on notice that Saints have stupidly high expectations and are prepared to sack them seven games in following a GF appearance against all the odds. I'm sure that will attract candidates from all over the place.

Are you actually for real? Talk about being melodramatic...