Re: Luke Walsh : Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:11 pm  

I think that there's a throw with the Walsh one de does not just let go and that's what git him the ban. At first I watched it and it looks like he realises he's going to take him over the horizontal n shoves him to the ground it's not a massive throw but there's a movement there that's clear to see

Re: Luke Walsh : Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:22 pm  

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/146 ... f=mrb&lp=3

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/146 ... f=mrb&lp=3

Re: Luke Walsh : Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:19 pm  

Club statement http://m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/6197

Club statement http://m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/6197

Re: Luke Walsh : Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:46 pm  

theblondebomber wrote: Club statement http://m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/6197 Yes, McManus and KC are clearly very angry and have good reasons to be. I'm just sorry, they didn't take it further, because what they are saying will have no impact and will not make any difference. Why not leave the two of them out of his squad (as they are already) and do the appeal anyway? You have to follow up on your convictions, otherwise its just words and to others outside our bubble it looks like sour grapes. Now we all know that is not true, but they should have proven their case at the appeal and if necessary, take it further to arbitration.

theblondebomber wrote: Club statement http://m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/6197 Yes, McManus and KC are clearly very angry and have good reasons to be. I'm just sorry, they didn't take it further, because what they are saying will have no impact and will not make any difference. Why not leave the two of them out of his squad (as they are already) and do the appeal anyway? You have to follow up on your convictions, otherwise its just words and to others outside our bubble it looks like sour grapes. Now we all know that is not true, but they should have proven their case at the appeal and if necessary, take it further to arbitration.

Re: Luke Walsh : Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:50 am  

I don't think Walsh's tackle was the greatest ever but agree that the sentencing is unbelievable.If you watched our game against Catalans last night you would see Dave Taylor spear tackle for at least the third time this season and once again no action taken, apart from awarding us a penalty. There needs to be a real shake up in the disciplinary system and proper punishments handed out to serial offenders before someone is seriously injured, or even worse. Incidentally, best of luck tonight, hope you stuff the Pies.

Re: Luke Walsh : Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:16 pm  

I've not seen the incident so cannot comment on whether I think it deserved anything or not. What I don't understand is that if St Helens felt either the 2 matches was harsh or it didn't deserve a ban why don't you appeal. Being realistic if they've handed to a 2 match ban it is unlikely to be reduced to 0 if successful with the appeal but it could be reduced to 1 meaning he is available for the next game.

Re: Luke Walsh : Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:27 pm  

Trainman wrote:

I've not seen the incident so cannot comment on whether I think it deserved anything or not. What I don't understand is that if St Helens felt either the 2 matches was harsh or it didn't deserve a ban why don't you appeal. Being realistic if they've handed to a 2 match ban it is unlikely to be reduced to 0 if successful with the appeal but it could be reduced to 1 meaning he is available for the next game.

Our chairman explains it in the link mate. The hearing should have been on Wednesday but through the fault of the RFL, it got delayed until yesterday (Thursday). The coach had to prepare the players he definitely had for the following evening instead of faffing around and the players themselves doing a 5 hour round trip.

The RFL are amateurs. It's ran like the Phoenix Club.

Re: Luke Walsh : Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:35 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Our chairman explains it in the link mate. The hearing should have been on Wednesday but through the fault of the RFL, it got delayed until yesterday (Thursday). The coach had to prepare the players he definitely had for the following evening instead of faffing around and the players themselves doing a 5 hour round trip.

The RFL are amateurs. It's ran like the Phoenix Club.

Cunningham can prepare the available players. If you work on the premise that Walsh and Thompson were not available for the Wigan game, even if the appeal was successful and the bans reduced to zero you could have run with the same team but the players are then available for the next match. As I said if St Helens believed the bans were unjust and they had a case I don't understand not appealing.

Re: Luke Walsh : Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:13 pm  

Trainman wrote:

Cunningham can prepare the available players. If you work on the premise that Walsh and Thompson were not available for the Wigan game, even if the appeal was successful and the bans reduced to zero you could have run with the same team but the players are then available for the next match. As I said if St Helens believed the bans were unjust and they had a case I don't understand not appealing.

Instead he played Fages at 7 and stuck him in the centres all game.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:02 am  

Trainman wrote:

Cunningham can prepare the available players. If you work on the premise that Walsh and Thompson were not available for the Wigan game, even if the appeal was successful and the bans reduced to zero you could have run with the same team but the players are then available for the next match. As I said if St Helens believed the bans were unjust and they had a case I don't understand not appealing.

Fully agree with this.

We should have appealed and assumed the 2 players were not playing. KC didn't need to go with them.

it looks now as if we were spitting the dummy out.

The chaos spilled over to the game against the goons. they were pretty ordinary and we were completely p$$s poor. We looked like the team from 2-3 months ago; confidence shot, no clue in attack, straight down the middle, no offloads etc etc.
we deserved to get soundly beaten and I can't pick out individuals as we were c$ap throughout the team.

I shudder to think about what will happen to us against hull. I put this partially down to throwing our toys out of the pram by not appealing.