Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:26 am  

Fatbelly wrote:

Nicky, I really don't know what you've been drinking but to say Wire have had a good run with injuries is like saying the Titanic only had a pin hole in its Hull.

Currently we have injured........
Sandow.
Laithwaite.
Harrison.
Bailey.
T King.
B Evans.
Dodds.
Patton.
Dwyer.
Cox.
Wheeler.

Thats 11 players out of our 25 man squad.


Playing on with injuries are.....
Ratchford.
Westwood
Gidley.
Clark

I really can't be bothered getting in to this again so here's my final comment on the Wires injury situation-

You've got one top player injured and that happened very recently. You've got a couple of potential bench players missing and the rest are average Joes who are filling your squad out or they're kids outside of your main squad.

I'm talking about proper injuries, injuries to starting players and good starting players at that. You Wires are having a fabulous trot of keeping your main players fit in comparison to Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Huddersfield (although they seem to be easing) etc.

It isn't the only reason you're up the top but it's helping.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:00 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I really can't be bothered getting in to this again so here's my final comment on the Wires injury situation-

You've got one top player injured and that happened very recently. You've got a couple of potential bench players missing and the rest are average Joes who are filling your squad out or they're kids outside of your main squad.

I'm talking about proper injuries, injuries to starting players and good starting players at that. You Wires are having a fabulous trot of keeping your main players fit in comparison to Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Huddersfield (although they seem to be easing) etc.

It isn't the only reason you're up the top but it's helping.

Warrington First Seventeen:

Russell
Lineham
Evans
Atkins
Ratchford
Penny
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clarke
Sims
Currie
Hughes
Westwood
Westerman
Dwyer
Dodds

Thats only 3 players with any lengthy spell on the sidelines compared to some other teams who have 6 to 10 players out over a similar period. I think Catalans have the fewest amount of injuries and its showing in their winning sequence, they are a very settled side who can throw in a player outside their first 17 without much disruption.
Other teams are just struggling with structure, game plans and defensive reads with 5 or 6 fringe players on the pitch especially against a strong settled side.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:42 am  

After watching Catalans last week against Hull KR I rated them highly, every player delivering 100% and I expected a tough game last night and they delivered again. Yes Cunningham did in his after match press conference mention his senior players, but no way could you include LMS as not delivering, would a guy with a miserable face most of the time, sat in a silly hat and the largest headphones you could get inspire you? he would not inspire me! I still blame the statue, naming housing estates after a player, can St Helens sack him, I voted for Tom Vollenoven, who deserved it much more, someone like Roby is much better all round then Cunningham, does he get a statue? I feel for him he is giving 150% at the present time and being run into the ground.

Refereeing is bad, games are going longer and longer, how many video checks are we going to allow, but I think the crowd was a little bit OTT last night, there were offences Saints got away with, when will Wilkin get caught with lifting the leg of a player that is virtually tackled it is dangerous, Saints had two possible offence from Catalans put on report. I know they do not bring many fans but never have I seen the ground sound and seem so empty, on TV it sounded like a A team match used to.

Recruitment has been bad for a long time now, it is letting a top club down, the young players being produced do not see as high standard as once, changes are needed.

Not seen the attendance? last season was 12,008!

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:33 pm  

jaybs wrote:

....... would a guy with a miserable face most of the time, sat in a silly hat and the largest headphones you could get inspire you?

I actually spat my tea out when I read that! I also commented on that last night. He is the Coach of one of the biggest names in RL (it hurt to say that) and he dresses like a fan having a night out. As a leader of men, and the face of your club, he needs to think about his appearance, and how he is perceived.
As for what he said, plenty of coaches say things after a loss that they probably regret.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:20 pm  

Smooth Stu wrote:

As for what he said, plenty of coaches say things after a loss that they probably regret.

Only problem is he does seem to put his foot in it at press conferences a lot, not the brightest perhaps?

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:52 pm  

[quote="Saddened!"]Jack Owens "chasing" Pat Richards was one of the most disgraceful things I've seen on a sporting field

I wouldn't go that far but it sure was embarrassing.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:12 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Jack Owens "chasing" Pat Richards was one of the most disgraceful things I've seen on a sporting field.

You are mistaken. Owens was not playing.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:16 am  

KC is not a coach, he still has a lot to learn. He may have been a very good player, but there's a huge difference in the jobs. Not only that but how would they get shut of him if they wanted to? They have a statue of the guy there after all. Do they throw a tarpaulin over it a pretend it was never there. Best you can do is make him someone's assistant, or just persevere with him and hope he gains a quick education. A statue is a fine tribute, but it should have been done when he had no working connection to the club.

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:18 am  

pies-r-us wrote:

KC is not a coach, he still has a lot to learn. He may have been a very good player, but there's a huge difference in the jobs. Not only that but how would they get shut of him if they wanted to? They have a statue of the guy there after all. Do they throw a tarpaulin over it a pretend it was never there. Best you can do is make him someone's assistant, or just persevere with him and hope he gains a quick education. A statue is a fine tribute, but it should have been done when he had no working connection to the club.

Even if he bombs of a coach, he's still remembered as one of our greatest players so a statue is still going to be there.

It's to remember him as a great player, not a great coach

Re: St Helens v Catalans Dragons : Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:28 am  

St pete wrote:

Even if he bombs of a coach, he's still remembered as one of our greatest players so a statue is still going to be there.

It's to remember him as a great player, not a great coach

That was the problem! he was only ONE of greatest players, I rate Roby even better than Cunningham, does he get a statue. When the vote took place for the statue I would say half of fans today know the History of the many Great club players Saints have had.