Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:15 am  

St pete wrote:

Very highly thought of at widnes and was their example to young players when trying to sign them

He's that highly thought of we're releasing him with a year left on his contract!

Welcome to him - good luck to the lad. But I'm amazed he's signing for you when he can't get in our side.

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:17 am  

wakey_saint wrote:

For me, SMD would have to be starting next season as our full back as that is his best position...but that said he has played both wing and centre for Wests Tigers in the NRL before he came over here so it wouldnt be that strange to stick him in there (although I would only use him there as cover for injuries should we need it)

SMD has also played at 6

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:22 am  

wakey_saint wrote:

For me, SMD would have to be starting next season as our full back as that is his best position...but that said he has played both wing and centre for Wests Tigers in the NRL before he came over here so it wouldnt be that strange to stick him in there (although I would only use him there as cover for injuries should we need it)

SMD wasn't good enough before his very serious injury and I highly
Doubt he's going to improve after a very serious injury.

I'd have lomax at fullback any day of the week ahead of SMD. We have missed his attack so much it's unreal. He scared the life out of teams on the edges and at times in attack it was the Jonny Lomax show. He's safe on kicks and good in defence.

SMD is a upgrade on Quinlan but he's still nowhere good enough for a top 5 team in super league.

I'm pretty sure peyroux will be centre

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:26 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

He's that highly thought of we're releasing him with a year left on his contract!

Welcome to him - good luck to the lad. But I'm amazed he's signing for you when he can't get in our side.

That's the story of our 2016 recruitment. Peyroux, Theo, Tasi all struggled to get in pretty poor teams but we've took them on so signing Owens is in line with 2016 recruitment.

I think you'll find the is more to the jack Owens release than you know. Maybe he was promised tell number 1 jersey and told widnes will not bring in Avg aussies and then widnes sign a Avg fullback from the bulldogs.

Just saying

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:18 am  

It's another shocking signing. Add to Tasi, Peyroux (I'll give Theo the benefit of the doubt, for now) and Dawson and it's clear out recruitment has gone south spectacularly.

Owens was unable to hold down a spot at Widnes, that should automatically exclude him from being looked at by us. Worse they felt it was better to sign a very average NRL fullback to play ahead of him and then released him. If we have paid money for him I'll be very shocked.

Why not just throw Grace or Wellington in?

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:24 am  

Saddened! wrote:

It's another shocking signing. Add to Tasi, Peyroux (I'll give Theo the benefit of the doubt, for now) and Dawson and it's clear out recruitment has gone south spectacularly.

Owens was unable to hold down a spot at Widnes, that should automatically exclude him from being looked at by us. Worse they felt it was better to sign a very average NRL fullback to play ahead of him and then released him. If we have paid money for him I'll be very shocked.

Why not just throw Grace or Wellington in?

No doubt Owens is a decent player and if it's like for like with Dawson then we have Improved the squad.

I know what Owen was on at widnes and no way Dawson is near that so I'm just surprised we've not used the money elsewhere for a centre or prop.

We've had a big big chunk of cap gone now with Lance, mose, Wello, flash, Quinlan etc going and I'm pretty sure peyroux will be on next to nothing and tasi won't be on the likes of what mose was.

When you have big earners leave I expect big names coming in and theo, tasi, peyroux and Owens ain't big earners

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:28 am  

St pete wrote:

That's the story of our 2016 recruitment. Peyroux, Theo, Tasi all struggled to get in pretty poor teams but we've took them on so signing Owens is in line with 2016 recruitment.

I think you'll find the is more to the jack Owens release than you know. Maybe he was promised tell number 1 jersey and told widnes will not bring in Avg aussies and then widnes sign a Avg fullback from the bulldogs.

Just saying

How do you know what I know!?

Jack had ample opportunities to put his claim in for a first team spot but other players took their chance and were ahead of him, simple. Why waste our cap money and Jack's time?

Thompson is more than capable of playing Super League and regardless, Rhys Hanbury is still our first choice full back. As I said I wish Jack all the best and have watched him for many a year - thought he'd be in the side for years but sadly, his performances didn't warrant it. If he was killing it for us, why would we have released him or looked elsewhere for signings?

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:29 am  

Is Owens fast?

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:32 am  

I see Hampshire has gone on loan to Cas. We'd have been better making a move for him though no doubt the pies would have done everything possible to prevent such a move.

Re: Jack Owens : Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:40 am  

Hawkandro wrote:

Is Owens fast?

Average from what I've seen, similar to Tommy.