Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:49 pm  

St pete wrote:

We have made less meters than any of the top 6 this year.

Is that an actual stat, mate? If it is then that goes some way to dispelling the myth shared by some that we have this amazing dominant pack.

I agree with you, we need another big forward. It'll be interesting to see if Haggarty can step up to the plate. He's a big lad.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:01 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Is that an actual stat, mate? If it is then that goes some way to dispelling the myth shared by some that we have this amazing dominant pack.

I agree with you, we need another big forward. It'll be interesting to see if Haggarty can step up to the plate. He's a big lad.

Yes it's true

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:57 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Is that an actual stat, mate? If it is then that goes some way to dispelling the myth shared by some that we have this amazing dominant pack.

I agree with you, we need another big forward. It'll be interesting to see if Haggarty can step up to the plate. He's a big lad.

Yes, thats true 28419 metres average per game 979, Leeds 34201 metres average per game 1180.

We were going OK for the first 6 rounds then we converted to one man rugby for the next 20 rounds. Our metres against Wigan was below average, goons kept us to 950 metres, its all Walmsleys fault for getting injured. Swifty has helped with the metres over the last 3 games but he's not a pack man though.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:31 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Yes, thats true 28419 metres average per game 979, Leeds 34201 metres average per game 1180.

We were going OK for the first 6 rounds then we converted to one man rugby for the next 20 rounds. Our metres against Wigan was below average, goons kept us to 950 metres, its all Walmsleys fault for getting injured. Swifty has helped with the metres over the last 3 games but he's not a pack man though.

Jeees...

Swifty has been a godsend this season. Always willing to run it out of his 20. And looks like a decent dancer too.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:36 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Jeees...

Swifty has been a godsend this season. Always willing to run it out of his 20. And looks like a decent dancer too.

Early in the year our back three of lomax, swift and tommy had made more meters than any other back three in super league.

At the moment swift is carrying the back three and doing all quinlans kick returns for him.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:50 pm  

St pete wrote:

At the moment swift is carrying the back three and doing all quinlans kick returns for him.

Swifty has improved loads this season, he makes the odd error now and again but he's been brilliant as the season wore on. Chuffed to bits for him, he's a nightmare for the opposition, his foot work reminds me of Jason Robinson a bit. Wish we could revert him back to his old pre saints position of stand off.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:17 pm  

Of course - having either a dysfunctional or no halfback partnership at all (for almost all of the season) couldn't possibly have anything to do with our yardage stats.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:04 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Of course - having either a dysfunctional or no halfback partnership at all (for almost all of the season) couldn't possibly have anything to do with our yardage stats.

Last season we made 35 829 metres with one recognised half back (Walsh) who managed only 16 games. For me Brown had us playing a more expansive game despite adjusting to Plan B.

This season we made 28 419 metres with two recognised half backs, Walsh who has managed 16 games to date and Burns has managed 25 games to date. I think KC has had us playing a more conservative game.

Our pack was probably a bit more dominant last season, this season our pack doesn't seem to have laid a platform for our half backs, which probably contributes to the dysfunction you have mentioned.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:08 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Of course - having either a dysfunctional or no halfback partnership at all (for almost all of the season) couldn't possibly have anything to do with our yardage stats.

No I can't see how that would effect the meters or go foward at all. Yes it wouid effect our attack, yes it would effect our kicking but no it doesn't effect how many meters our pack makes.

If anything our lack of go foward effects our halves massivley.

I don't get where your coming from with no halves this year. We've had Burns fit nearly all year. Wilkin coverd walsh early on and many want Wilkn as our half anyway. Luke walsh has played the last ten and picked up two MOM in last month so compared to last year we are much better in the halves.

The problrm is our pack at the moment. We have to many Young lads like thompson, sav, Richsrds, sav and greenwood playing who at the moment can't physically stand up consistsntly each week. That's leaves us very short in the pack for go foward. Vea missing hasn't helped. We miss Sia and manu big time. Two proper players that physically stand up week in and week out.

Tasi will bring more meters next year if he can get back to the way he played until this year but we are in dire need of another meter making prop.

Re: Post Match Stats - Goal Line defence Wins the Game : Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:34 pm  

St pete wrote:

No I can't see how that would effect the meters or go foward at all.

This must rank right up there among the most ludicrous statements ever made on this board. Truly Olympic standard. Bravo!

I'm not going to bother debating the point. It would be like attempting to prove the existence of the moon.

Note to self: stop wasting precious time on fools.