Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:18 am  

St pete wrote:

I've been saying this regarding Quinlan since the 3rd game he played. Massivley out of position, can't tackle, awful kick returns and avoids contact like the plague.

Imo HES on of the worst fullbacks ive seen in a saints shirt.

Let's be fair though, he was a desperation signing. They obviously don't think the full back in the U19's is ready for a lengthy run in the side.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:52 am  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Let's be fair though, he was a desperation signing. They obviously don't think the full back in the U19's is ready for a lengthy run in the side.

KC needs to do something different to unshackle the side will he have courage to change things:

I would put Swift at full back based on decent kick returns so that the kick from our set is in the opposition half and not in our half. Drop Burns and try Quinlan at stand off to add pace and to allow his strength (support play) to be more effective. Turner, stop trying to make him a loose forward and put him back at centre as we have a full team of back rowers. This means Dawson back on the wing in preference to Fleming. Wilkin obviously working as a pivotal loose forward.

We,ve had enough games now to know the Walsh/Burns partnership for some reason is not functioning, so that partnership needs to be broken, and we all know KC seems to be very hesitant to drop Walsh no matter how bad he plays.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:01 am  

Time to shake things up now, Quinlan to stand off. Looking at his highlights video he's played there before.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:16 am  

roader wrote:

Time to shake things up now, Quinlan to stand off. Looking at his highlights video he's played there before.

I really don't see that solving anything. If anything we need a half who is capable of taking the line on and holding defenders up. Quinlan doesn't strike me as being capable of that - as people have said, he's basically a smart support player with nothing else to his game.

I'm surprised to see myself typing this, but I actually thought we were by far at our most cohesive and dangerous when Turner was playing in the middle. He's obviously not a natural ball player, but looked a threat carrying the ball and suddenly Huddersfield were having to make decisions in defence. Before moving Quinlan into the halves I'd be inclined to either give Turner more game time at 13 (perhaps bring him on after 20 mins once the game has opened up a bit and leave him on) or drop Burns and put Turner at 6.

Before the volley of derision begins, by the way, this isn't me saying that I think Turner is a great 6/13. But since we're not getting organisation or a reliable kicking game from either of our halves we may as well have someone in there who is a threat with ball in hand.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:18 am  

Looked like KC had realised publicly slating his players may not have been a good idea so tried to counter that last night despite the poor performance, end result-he looks a bit silly.

Thought Quinlan was poor from first time of seeing him play for saints.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:21 am  

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1361 ... _not_over/ "The effort across the board from all the players was really good and if anything there was a little too much effort and trying to force things. Too much anxiety when defending and giving away penalties. “It was good that we got a response. Huddersfield are a great side and it was a typical game between the two sides, it went down to the death again, we had chances to win it and so did they. They just took their chances a little better. “It was a lot better than the Hull game but it couldn’t have been any worse.” "I thought we got into some form of rhythm at times; when Jordan Turner came on he looked good in the middle part of the field and there was some really good efforts out there. “Mark Percival was brillilliant, as was Andre Savelio and big Al. In fact, you could do through the side and pick out good performances. “Percy came up with a couple of clangers defensively but he was brilliant again. “Tommy was a little bit rusty having not played for 10 weeks, but he will just get better and better but it is good to get that combination going again.” "We played anxious which is understandable because we have gone through a few games getting beaten at an important time of the season but I am happy with the response. We can have a good week off working hard, come back and play against Leeds. "We have a lot of people who have played a lot of rugby – all those middles have played a lot and its hard to spell them when the squad isn't as thick so the break will do them good. Share article “At this point in time they have to stay together and stay focused and work hard as a group and if we do that we will come through it. "The season isn't over. Everyone is saying that we have capitulated but the season is a long way from over. We have to make the top four and we will have a good crack at that."

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1361 ... _not_over/ "The effort across the board from all the players was really good and if anything there was a little too much effort and trying to force things. Too much anxiety when defending and giving away penalties. “It was good that we got a response. Huddersfield are a great side and it was a typical game between the two sides, it went down to the death again, we had chances to win it and so did they. They just took their chances a little better. “It was a lot better than the Hull game but it couldn’t have been any worse.” "I thought we got into some form of rhythm at times; when Jordan Turner came on he looked good in the middle part of the field and there was some really good efforts out there. “Mark Percival was brillilliant, as was Andre Savelio and big Al. In fact, you could do through the side and pick out good performances. “Percy came up with a couple of clangers defensively but he was brilliant again. “Tommy was a little bit rusty having not played for 10 weeks, but he will just get better and better but it is good to get that combination going again.” "We played anxious which is understandable because we have gone through a few games getting beaten at an important time of the season but I am happy with the response. We can have a good week off working hard, come back and play against Leeds. "We have a lot of people who have played a lot of rugby – all those middles have played a lot and its hard to spell them when the squad isn't as thick so the break will do them good. Share article “At this point in time they have to stay together and stay focused and work hard as a group and if we do that we will come through it. "The season isn't over. Everyone is saying that we have capitulated but the season is a long way from over. We have to make the top four and we will have a good crack at that."

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:30 am  

Dux wrote:

Before the volley of derision begins, by the way, this isn't me saying that I think Turner is a great 6/13. But since we're not getting organisation or a reliable kicking game from either of our halves we may as well have someone in there who is a threat with ball in hand.

Wilkin will be dropping into this role in a couple of weeks, we need a good attacking threat out wide Jonesy won't provide that, so I would revert our best attacking player to centre. Probably better looking at Turners new role off season, at the moment he looks lost in how he fits into the pattern of play.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:48 am  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Let's be fair though, he was a desperation signing. They obviously don't think the full back in the U19's is ready for a lengthy run in the side.

I agree he was a desperation signing a d I agree Bailey isn't ready but some posters wanted this guy as first choice for next year after his first two games!

Lomax with no legs is better than Quinlan. Even SMD is better than him!

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:38 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/13617594.Cunningham_s_reaction__We_have_not_capitulated__the_season_is_not_over/

"The effort across the board from all the players was really good and if anything there was a little too much effort and trying to force things. Too much anxiety when defending and giving away penalties.

“It was good that we got a response. Huddersfield are a great side and it was a typical game between the two sides, it went down to the death again, we had chances to win it and so did they. They just took their chances a little better.

“It was a lot better than the Hull game but it couldn’t have been any worse.”

"I thought we got into some form of rhythm at times; when Jordan Turner came on he looked good in the middle part of the field and there was some really good efforts out there.

“Mark Percival was brillilliant, as was Andre Savelio and big Al. In fact, you could do through the side and pick out good performances.

“Percy came up with a couple of clangers defensively but he was brilliant again.

“Tommy was a little bit rusty having not played for 10 weeks, but he will just get better and better but it is good to get that combination going again.”

"We played anxious which is understandable because we have gone through a few games getting beaten at an important time of the season but I am happy with the response. We can have a good week off working hard, come back and play against Leeds.

"We have a lot of people who have played a lot of rugby – all those middles have played a lot and its hard to spell them when the squad isn't as thick so the break will do them good.

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“At this point in time they have to stay together and stay focused and work hard as a group and if we do that we will come through it.

"The season isn't over. Everyone is saying that we have capitulated but the season is a long way from over. We have to make the top four and we will have a good crack at that."

Bloody Sky Sports... showing a different game last night!

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:29 pm  

Dux wrote:

I'm surprised to see myself typing this, but I actually thought we were by far at our most cohesive and dangerous when Turner was playing in the middle. He's obviously not a natural ball player, but looked a threat carrying the ball and suddenly Huddersfield were having to make decisions in defence. Before moving Quinlan into the halves I'd be inclined to either give Turner more game time at 13 (perhaps bring him on after 20 mins once the game has opened up a bit and leave him on) or drop Burns and put Turner at 6.

I agree. When turner came into the middle burns and Walsh looked a different prospect.

I too don't think turner is the answer as his passing game isn't good enough but I think we will look better when Wilkin comes back.