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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I don't get that. If Cunningham is dishing out those types are warnings then surely Walsh should be top of the pile.'"
Why? He's dramatically outperforming Burns in terms of halfback play at the minute.
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| 4 players warned about their future...Who would we guess at? Burns? Was Amor warned before being given his go this weekend? Turner (if so that's harsh, he isn't as exposed when defending alongside someone who can be d)? Let speculation commence
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| Quote southernsaint7="southernsaint7"4 players warned about their future...Who would we guess at? Burns? Was Amor warned before being given his go this weekend? Turner (if so that's harsh, he isn't as exposed when defending alongside someone who can be d)? Let speculation commence'"
Amazed if Amor was mentioned. The lad works his backside off every single game & never imo gives less than 100%.
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"Why? He's dramatically outperforming Burns in terms of halfback play at the minute.'"
We can agree to disagree on who is performing better out of the two; I would personally rather Burns than Walsh on current form. However to suggest Walsh is dramatically outperforming Burns is ridiculous. Walsh isn't dramatically outperforming anyone or anything at the moment.
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| Burns, Masoe, Flanagan and Swift.
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| Quote SLS="SLS"Burns, Masoe, Flanagan and Swift.'"
Which would seem counter productive. Masoe is already gone at the end of the season, rumour is flash is gone to (Salford muted). Burns has another two year big deal in the bank & will be laughing his head off & Swift will be one of the lower earners.
He's got an issue with JT at the moment so one will be him no doubt, the others should be Walsh, Les Dawson & himself. The juries out at the moment on all four
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| Are we talking about players who aren't putting a shift in or are we talking about ability here?
From what I can see, Flash is a workhorse who tackles everything he can and is always willing to put his hand up for other roles even though he probably isn't the best rugby player you'll see. Swift scores tries, defuses bombs and is always willing to run it out of the 20 whilst that lazy 'I'll bother to play when I want to' Masoe watches on.
Burns also puts a shift in but currently his game management and contribution to the attack is a bit poor.
This thread just seems to be turning into a free for all swipe at the players that people don't particular rate than actual effort.
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"Why? He's dramatically outperforming Burns in terms of halfback play at the minute.'"
You have GOT to be taking the mickey. I won't defend Burns' go-forward. But the guy is always the first man challenging the kick receiver whilst Walsh looks completely out of his depth tackling for most of the game ON THE WING.
How can you have the supposed brains of the side spending half the game on the wing?
The guy can barely walk. He can't tackle at all. His kicking for territory is non-existent.
Right now the only thing standing in his favour is his ability to kick a ball high.
Saints performed miracles last season winning the GF without halves. But you simply can't go through an entire season with no halves. If you could - there'd be no need for them in the game.
Cunningham has to bench the guy for the rest of the season and look VERY SERIOUSLY at whether he's likely to be anywhere close to fit next because with two key players already with question marks hanging over them for next season (Lomax & McDonnell) we simply can't afford a third.
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| Well looks like the experiment with JT at loose has failed.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Well looks like the experiment with JT at loose has failed.'"
The whole team failed. Another one up performance. Totally clueless with the ball. We must have had 5/6 sets on Hudds line at one point.
Jamie Ellis looked better than both our halves.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"You have GOT to be taking the mickey. I won't defend Burns' go-forward. But the guy is always the first man challenging the kick receiver whilst Walsh looks completely out of his depth tackling for most of the game ON THE WING.
How can you have the supposed brains of the side spending half the game on the wing?
The guy can barely walk. He can't tackle at all. His kicking for territory is non-existent.
Right now the only thing standing in his favour is his ability to kick a ball high.
Saints performed miracles last season winning the GF without halves. But you simply can't go through an entire season with no halves. If you could - there'd be no need for them in the game.
Cunningham has to bench the guy for the rest of the season and look VERY SERIOUSLY at whether he's likely to be anywhere close to fit next because with two key players already with question marks hanging over them for next season (Lomax & McDonnell) we simply can't afford a third.'"
Yes, the best gauge of halfback play is whether they challenge a kick receiver.  Walsh defends one in from the wing, as do most halfbacks. Burns defends two in from the wing.
Here was me thinking the things you look for in a halfback are organisation, a kicking game, vision and a passing game (and a running game which neither of them have). Yet despite the fact that Burns has played ten more games, Walsh has made more try assists, more tries, more attacking kicks, more clean breaks and a game winning drop goal. But then again, Walsh does defend out wide, along with every single other halfback...
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