Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:39 pm  

I cannot stand the kicking early tactic being used week in, week out. Boring and dull.

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:43 pm  

Hawkandro wrote:

I cannot stand the kicking early tactic being used week in, week out. Boring and dull.

I can't fathom most of KC's tactics. I've never seen Saints play such boring rugby as they are doing now. Perhaps if we have a run of defeats he might realise how negative we are.

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:58 pm  

wirefox wrote:

I can't fathom most of KC's tactics. I've never seen Saints play such boring rugby as they are doing now. Perhaps if we have a run of defeats he might realise how negative we are.

He's trying to play hard working "percentage rugby", but its not working. From what I can remember, Longy is in charge of defence whilst KC has the attacking game plans, when it should be the other way round.

KC is on a steep learning curve though and we should remember that, we are approaching the final phase now, so lets hope he's learnt from some of his failing tactics.

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:20 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

He's trying to play hard working "percentage rugby", but its not working. From what I can remember, Longy is in charge of defence whilst KC has the attacking game plans, when it should be the other way round.

KC is on a steep learning curve though and we should remember that, we are approaching the final phase now, so lets hope he's learnt from some of his failing tactics.

It's not working?????

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:13 pm  

JLM32 wrote:

Before touching on anything else. Your comments on Anderson's reign are factually wrong. In his best season the most we lost by in the league was 4 points, hardly a hammering.

Jelly babies for you. But can you also remember the list of players Anderson lost for the entire season or long-term? Care to compare his starting halves throughout the season with this season's?

Then, you want us to CELEBRATE, the fact the Champion team (as you keep saying) Have only failed to contest 3 games! Wow.

So what you are saying is it's either one or two trophies - or you'll spit your dummy?

Wow!

Just WOW!

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:26 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Jelly babies for you. But can you also remember the list of players Anderson lost for the entire season or long-term? Care to compare his starting halves throughout the season with this season's?

So what you are saying is it's either one or two trophies - or you'll spit your dummy?

Wow!

Just WOW!

Daniel Anderson had to juggle things around plenty of times that season. I remember Paul Sculthorpe being constantly injured. Yet whatever side he put out (including a second string against Catalans in France) they had a fantastic work ethic, team spirit, defensive attitude and played exciting rugby on top of all that. There certainly was no silly kicking on the 3rd tackle. That side had belief.

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:03 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Jelly babies for you. But can you also remember the list of players Anderson lost for the entire season or long-term? Care to compare his starting halves throughout the season with this season's?

So what you are saying is it's either one or two trophies - or you'll spit your dummy?

Wow!

Just WOW!

As alluded to in the post after mine Anderson had his fair share of selection issues, however that's not the point. You have stated they were hammered in order to assist your argument which simply isn't true.

Now where have I said I expect One or two Trophies? Go on, enlighten me? What I expect is a team of professionals to contest every game. When I played myself I wouldn't have been happy with only being blown away two or three times a season!

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:03 am  

JLM32 wrote:

As alluded to in the post after mine Anderson had his fair share of selection issues, however that's not the point.

Oh ... I think it's certainly A point. Care to list those injuries? Care to compare with this season's injuries. Take your time now.

Now where have I said I expect One or two Trophies? Go on, enlighten me?

Given that we are lying second in the table (by a SINGLE POINT) - with not just serious, long term-injuries - but injuries to key personnel - I really don't know what else you expect - aside from us being one position higher and on our way to the CCF.

If you're prepared to spit the dummy with the club in this position (whilst seriously handicapped by injury) I'd love to see your reaction if we were lying fifth or eighth.

What I expect is a team of professionals to contest every game.

Yes - well what you EXPECT and what happens in REALITY are two different things. Consider Saints in 2002 under Ian Millward. A championship year in which we lost five times.

At London we were absolutely mullered by 40 points to 4. At Bradford we lost 54 - 22. At Wigan we lost 8 - 22. We also lost at Murrayfield.

By YOUR STANDARDS, then, there's nothing to be happy about because "professionals [should] contest every game".

Let's look at Saints' in 2005. We we're blown away in our first game of the season at home to Bradford 10 - 32. We were blown away at home again, this time against Leeds 20 - 42. We were then smashed by no less than WAKEFIELD 34 - 16. We then lost to Wigan - 4 - 42.

Despite the above - we finished the season going "Wide to West" and beating Wigan in the final.

Let's now look at last season. We lost 14 - 33 at Wigan. We lost 41- 24 against Warrington. We lost 42 - NIL against Catalans. We lost 40 - 10 against Hull KR. We lost 12 - 39 against Warrington again.

And on and on and on ...

When I played myself I wouldn't have been happy with only being blown away two or three times a season!

I guess you'd better tell Paul Sculthorpe, Tommy Martyn, Sean Long, Paul Newlove and a host of other Saints' greats that their achievements aren't up to your high standards, then.

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:42 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Let's look at Saints' in 2005. We we're blown away in our first game of the season at home to Bradford 10 - 32. We were blown away at home again, this time against Leeds 20 - 42. We were then smashed by no less than WAKEFIELD 34 - 16. We then lost to Wigan - 4 - 42.

Despite the above - we finished the season going "Wide to West" and beating Wigan in the final.

Wide to West 2005?

Re: Before waving the white flag and QUITTING... : Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:44 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Wide to West 2005?

Internet typo error - shock!