Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:48 pm  

Mr Teflon has the Super League trophy sat in his office. That's why he is Mr Teflon. No panic buys to appease the crowd mid game.


Wilkins edge defence has been beyond horrific since he moved to 7, I am actually taken aback by how bad it is. Thank god he'll be going back to the middle as he just isn't made out for it.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:58 pm  

Smurf wrote:

Mr Teflon has the Super League trophy sat in his office. That's why he is Mr Teflon. No panic buys to appease the crowd mid game.


Wilkins edge defence has been beyond horrific since he moved to 7, I am actually taken aback by how bad it is. Thank god he'll be going back to the middle as he just isn't made out for it.

But second rows only defend one further in than he is now. One of the supposed advantages of having a second row play in 7 is the defensive element in that role isn't dissimilar (like flanagan last year) - I don't see his return to the pack magically making his positioning not atrocious.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:58 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Time for Mr. Teflon to make a statement?

Saints have a big pack BUT the grounds are now drying out and that will suit the more athletic and quicker forwards/teams. Saints lack of pace and over reliance on that big pack will be a concern for Cunningham.

LMS, Greenwood, Vea, Thompson are some of the fastest forwards in the game and can revert to centre position if needed, Roby is no slouch either.
Unfortunately two of our fastest backs and two of those fastest forwards have been out long term.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:07 pm  

Smurf wrote:

Wilkins edge defence has been beyond horrific since he moved to 7, I am actually taken aback by how bad it is. Thank god he'll be going back to the middle as he just isn't made out for it.

You mean the same Wilkin who was one of the form players in SL until he was injured?

I'm actually "taken aback" that you are taken aback!

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:11 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

But second rows only defend one further in than he is now. One of the supposed advantages of having a second row play in 7 is the defensive element in that role isn't dissimilar (like flanagan last year) - I don't see his return to the pack magically making his positioning not atrocious.

He went from defending as a middle making 30-40 tackles a game and often more, which was his biggest asset, to hardly making any and missing plenty. He will defend at a minimum of fourth in now depending on whether he plays 13, which can hardly be described as the edge. He'll be looking forward to it.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:37 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

You mean the same Wilkin who was one of the form players in SL until he was injured?

I'm actually "taken aback" that you are taken aback!

If you think that his defence hasn't gone down the pan since playing 7 and thus moving wider, then you just aren't watching. I just assumed he'd be better out there considering as mentioned he was making 40 plus tackles as a middle and capably so, but it's a tricky place to defend and some players can't adapt easily.

I know usually you'd put up some stats backing up your point with some patronising capital letters and bold underline, so please feel free as it's there to see in the numbers as well as watching from the stand.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:51 pm  

Smurf wrote:

If you think that his defence hasn't gone down the pan since playing 7 and thus moving wider, then you just aren't watching. I just assumed he'd be better out there considering as mentioned he was making 40 plus tackles as a middle and capably so, but it's a tricky place to defend and some players can't adapt easily.

I know usually you'd put up some stats backing up your point with some patronising capital letters and bold underline, so please feel free as it's there to see in the numbers as well as watching from the stand.

He's going to throw the dictionary at you

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:05 pm  

Are people actually that concerned.

Not that worried to be honest.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:08 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Are people actually that concerned.

Not that worried to be honest.

I think we will be ok if keep key players fit but our edge defence worries me and I'm not sure us at our best beats Wigan and leeds that their best.

Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:14 pm  

St pete wrote:

I think we will be ok if keep key players fit but our edge defence worries me and I'm not sure us at our best beats Wigan and leeds that their best.

Leeds and Wigan won't be able to live with our pack with us at our best.

The only concern is the defence and error count. Stop gifting teams ball and making daft mistakes and we'll take an enormous amount of stopping.