Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 9:55 am  

I've never been one for stats personally.

Can anyone tell me how they're calculated. Are metres counted from where a player receives the ball, or from where the play the ball is?

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 11:03 am  

jonnythesaint wrote:

I've never been one for stats personally.

Can anyone tell me how they're calculated. Are metres counted from where a player receives the ball, or from where the play the ball is?

It's from where he receives the ball, that's why fullbacks and wingers who receive the ball from kicks have good metre stats. Also the prop who runs the ball back from kick offs sometime appear to have good stats.

The real test I suppose would be the hard yards (metres made from first contact)

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 11:51 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

It's from where he receives the ball, that's why fullbacks and wingers who receive the ball from kicks have good metre stats. Also the prop who runs the ball back from kick offs sometime appear to have good stats.

The real test I suppose would be the hard yards (metres made from first contact)

And that's why I've been critical of Mose as I don't thick he does the hard meters (not seen hudds game). In fact it's really frustrated me watching walk back from a kick letting the play come to him while the likes of Amor been putting two drives in.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 1:51 pm  

St pete wrote:

And that's why I've been critical of Mose as I don't thick he does the hard meters (not seen hudds game). In fact it's really frustrated me watching walk back from a kick letting the play come to him while the likes of Amor been putting two drives in.

Well, rest assured, he did the hard metres in the Hudds game. The West Stand fans were chanting his name when they did their mini lap of honour at the end. Caused much amusement among the players. Weststanders aren't dopes. We recognise when someone has stood up to be counted, and Mose definitely did that on Friday night.

Like I said elsewhere, during his MoM interview in front of the Sky cameras he said he was 'still learning', which suggests his role is very different to the one he was used to back home. It also suggests that there is more to come.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:03 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Well, rest assured, he did the hard metres in the Hudds game. The West Stand fans were chanting his name when they did their mini lap of honour at the end. Caused much amusement among the players. Weststanders aren't dopes. We recognise when someone has stood up to be counted, and Mose definitely did that on Friday night.

Like I said elsewhere, during his MoM interview in front of the Sky cameras he said he was 'still learning', which suggests his role is very different to the one he was used to back home. It also suggests that there is more to come.

I'd like to say id take posters on here word for it that Mose played well having not seen the game but I've seen posters say he's played well before and IMHO he's been awful!

I can't imagine him doing hard yards. How did he get back to take the drives? He usually doesn't get into our attacking line until 3rd or 4th tackle.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:17 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'd like to say id take posters on here word for it that Mose played well having not seen the game but I've seen posters say he's played well before and IMHO he's been awful!

I can't imagine him doing hard yards. How did he get back to take the drives? He usually doesn't get into our attacking line until 3rd or 4th tackle.

Pete, all I will say is that he was the player who almost stopped the try being scored which came from Brough's clever kick off and which Hohaia didn't attempt to catch. He flew across the ingoal and almost got to the Hudds player in time. The man was on a mission I tell you.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:26 pm  

Mose is improving with almost every game I reckon in a few more games we are going to see BOOM BOOM time.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:30 pm  

SaintsFan wrote: Pete, all I will say was that he was the player who almost stopped the try being scored which came from Brough's clever kick off and which Hohaia didn't attempt to catch. He flew across the ingoal and almost got to the Hudds player in time. The man was on a mission I tell you. He almost made the tackle, like he almost got back into the defensive line after getting back from the kicks. How come he didn't get a tackle miss for the almost? Pete he wasn't much different to normal. The metres stats were inflated by the carries from kick offs it was just that he was on the field for a little longer. Again his tackle count was low. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/9991

SaintsFan wrote: Pete, all I will say was that he was the player who almost stopped the try being scored which came from Brough's clever kick off and which Hohaia didn't attempt to catch. He flew across the ingoal and almost got to the Hudds player in time. The man was on a mission I tell you. He almost made the tackle, like he almost got back into the defensive line after getting back from the kicks. How come he didn't get a tackle miss for the almost? Pete he wasn't much different to normal. The metres stats were inflated by the carries from kick offs it was just that he was on the field for a little longer. Again his tackle count was low. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/9991

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:34 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He almost made the tackle, like he almost got back into the defensive line after getting back from the kicks. How come he didn't get a tackle miss for the almost?

I didn't say he almost made a tackle. I said he almost stopped the try being scored. Had he done so I'm not sure it would have been considered a tackle as he would have just bashed the player out of the way by sheer force of presence. He can be seen just missing on the screen when the try is reviewed. I saw it with my own eyes at the stadium.

As for his tackles generally, we had others tackling too. It was his go forward which made a massive difference to us. You had to be there to appreciate it. You weren't there so you are not in a position to comment.

Re: Hudds stats : Sun May 25, 2014 7:41 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I didn't say he almost made a tackle. I said he almost stopped the try being scored. Had he done so I'm not sure it would have been considered a tackle as he would have just bashed the player out of the way by sheer force of presence. He can be seen just missing on the screen when the try is reviewed. I saw it with my own eyes at the stadium.

As for his tackles generally, we had others tackling too. It was his go forward which made a massive difference to us. You had to be there to appreciate it. You weren't there so you are not in a position to comment.

I watched it on t.v so I am.
Are you telling me that he got back into the line from the Huddersfield kicks before the second or third tackle?
How many carries did he make from those kicks through? How many times did he take the ball up from within his own twenty?