Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:08 pm  

No passion at all on display from saints today. I was trying to think what the opposite of intensity was after that game, now I've got to work out what the opposite of passion is too.

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:13 pm  

St pete wrote:

But surly you know that players don't mark each other right ?


It just doesn't work like that in rugby. So on your opinion, did lomax rip Bowen "a new one?"


Wigan was just the better team on the day. Simple as that.

Of course but you can compare like for like, position by position and it's not me who initially suggested we've got the better team on paper (even though we do and also on grass).

Wigan were indeed the better team on the day and that is pretty simple. It's also pretty simple to see that Wigan are a better side overall but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

Lomax was classy with ball in hand as was Bowen. Bowen was safer at the back though

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:21 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Of course but you can compare like for like, position by position and it's not me who initially suggested we've got the better team on paper (even though we do and also on grass).

Wigan were indeed the better team on the day and that is pretty simple. It's also pretty simple to see that Wigan are a better side overall but that doesn't mean it will stay that way.

Lomax was classy with ball in hand as was Bowen. Bowen was safer at the back though

Just strange that you compare Roby to MM and various others. I actually didn't even see MM in the game.

Players can play individually better than their opposite number but it's very rare the likes of hookers and backrows actually mark each other.

Today you was better but at the end of the day it's 2 points. If we win Monday I'll be happy. 2 points from the Easter games is ok, especially when we play 2 local derby games unlike Wigan who play bottom of the league on Monday and a championship side the following week.

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:36 pm  

St pete wrote:

Just strange that you compare Roby to MM and various others. I actually didn't even see MM in the game.

Players can play individually better than their opposite number but it's very rare the likes of hookers and backrows actually mark each other.

Today you was better but at the end of the day it's 2 points. If we win Monday I'll be happy. 2 points from the Easter games is ok, especially when we play 2 local derby games unlike Wigan who play bottom of the league on Monday and a championship side the following week.

We know more the most these weekly rounds count for nowt pretty much and they're basically a dress rehearsal for the real stuff at the end if the year. We've seen both sides if the coin, winning the LLS and flopping and then limping to 4th but being fresh enough to rip through teams in the play offs.

Today will count for nothing come September and Saints have plenty more to give. I respect your club and side hugely but just take the comments about us being weaker on paper with a bemused look on my face.

As for you game on Monday, did you see Widnes today? Truely awful and you shouldn't have a problem.

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

We know more the most these weekly rounds count for nowt pretty much and they're basically a dress rehearsal for the real stuff at the end if the year. We've seen both sides if the coin, winning the LLS and flopping and then limping to 4th but being fresh enough to rip through teams in the play offs.

Today will count for nothing come September and Saints have plenty more to give. I respect your club and side hugely but just take the comments about us being weaker on paper with a bemused look on my face.

As for you game on Monday, did you see Widnes today? Truely awful and you shouldn't have a problem.

The fact we play Leeds away the following week creates the problem Monday. We haven't had the opportunity to rest players against championship sides or against London yet so I can see ya resting players Monday.

I know Saveilo playing Monday so we are resting players and obviously Widnes will have a point to prove.

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:45 pm  

St pete wrote:

The fact we play Leeds away the following week creates the problem Monday. We haven't had the opportunity to rest players against championship sides or against London yet so I can see ya resting players Monday.

I know Saveilo playing Monday so we are resting players and obviously Widnes will have a point to prove.

I'd rest the majority if I were Brown. Ultimately a win or a loss doesn't really matter on Monday. I kept saying it last year, 1st or 4th, it doesn't really matter. The advantages are almost the same and rests for players in the weekly rounds are more important then finishing 2nd as opposed to 3rd (for example).

Brown looks like he'll play the guys who've annoyed him today. Turner and LMS must be guaranteed.

Re: Passion : Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:00 pm  

Monday,s game will be very much back to basics whichever players we select from.
It wasn,t so much passion or attitude a lot of it was basic errors, wrong options and bad finishing alongside lazy defence.
In the last 20 mins of the game today I think we only completed one set, the consistent basic errors in the second half was the worse I,ve seen this season.

Re: Passion : Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:26 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

severely lacking in comparrison to our near neighbours, they bleed for the shirt against us, we do not recipricate

We are are 1-25 a better team on paper and the table relects this, but V each other Wane gets them up to do the job against us

discuss ......

Back to that myth again.

Re: Passion : Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:32 am  

St pete wrote:

Just strange that you compare Roby to MM and various others. I actually didn't even see MM in the game.

Players can play individually better than their opposite number but it's very rare the likes of hookers and backrows actually mark each other.

Today you was better but at the end of the day it's 2 points. If we win Monday I'll be happy. 2 points from the Easter games is ok, especially when we play 2 local derby games unlike Wigan who play bottom of the league on Monday and a championship side the following week.

you should watch it back he was immense and probably out scooted Roby. In defence he just controls the line speed (which killed you yesterday) and he just kept us going forward all day.

Re: Passion : Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:50 am  

dubairl wrote:

Back to that myth again.

To clarify. i'm not saying every Saints player is better than every Wigan player, but as a squad as a whole.