Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:14 pm  

Shameful performance from Saints.

Is this season following 'the Brown philosophy' (start the season well, then fade into indifference)?

The writing's been on the wall for a few games now. The pack especially isn't being aggressive enough and winning the contact. On paper, we should be stuffing that rather average wi*an team. But, as has been said, we looked lethargic. And the game isn't played on paper. The semi-shaven ape had his players pumped and they looked like they wanted it more. That is inexcusable.

We had Brown before the game almost paying tribute to wi*an. WTF???? Has he no understanding of the hatred we have for the scummy, inbred, six-toed freaks?

Just as Brown took the platitudes for a good start to the season, so he must carry the can for this nauseating, powder-puff no-show.

Brown, either get the players up for games like this, or feck off.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:14 pm  

The more I watch LMS the more I think he's really a big second rower. We have two very good impact type props but we could do with another tough grinder to back up Amor.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:16 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Sorry but these needing a loss stuff is nonsense. No loss is a good loss. LMS is good when the goings good, he's not the kind of forward you want in an arm wrestle.

And Mose is the same!

Mose won't do the hard yards. It's very rare you'll see him take the ball up in our own 20m.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:17 pm  

Got took apart. All credit to Wigan and more importantly Shaun Wane who manages to get his team up for it every time; something we really do lack.

Thought Mose and Walmsley did well but LMS was awful. As was the backrow who looked pretty invisible.

Felt sorry for Walsh who seems to be expected to fo everything for us. Obviously need a 6 who offers more than Lance does.

As far as defence, everytime Wigan shifted the ball wide we looked in trouble and that must be down to coaching surely?

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:21 pm  

Dux wrote:

The more I watch LMS the more I think he's really a big second rower. We have two very good impact type props but we could do with another tough grinder to back up Amor.

Exactly what I posted earlier I the thread. We've got two impact props in Alex and Mose. Lms for me isn't a front line prop so it only leaves us with Amor.

I'd be very reluctant in picking LMS against Wigan again. He just gets smashed by the Wigan pack. When you play Wigan, you need to have fire v fire and to many soft forwards in our pack.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:24 pm  

TheSaints87 wrote:

Got took apart. All credit to Wigan and more importantly Shaun Wane who manages to get his team up for it every time; something we really do lack.

Thought Mose and Walmsley did well but LMS was awful. As was the backrow who looked pretty invisible.

Felt sorry for Walsh who seems to be expected to fo everything for us. Obviously need a 6 who offers more than Lance does.

As far as defence, everytime Wigan shifted the ball wide we looked in trouble and that must be down to coaching surely?

The defence out wide might be down to coaching but IMO if you've got a centre who can't tackle (Turner) then no matter what you do it's going to be touch.

Sure enough you can have a second row over to protect him but it's not as easy as it sounds when Wigan have the amount of runners they have.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:27 pm  

St pete wrote:

The defence out wide might be down to coaching but IMO if you've got a centre who can't tackle (Turner) then no matter what you do it's going to be touch.

Sure enough you can have a second row over to protect him but it's not as easy as it sounds when Wigan have the amount of runners they have.

Who plays centre in the academy? Can we have anyone else there besides Wheeler

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:29 pm  

TheSaints87 wrote:

Who plays centre in the academy? Can we have anyone else there besides Wheeler

Percival will hopefully be back soon.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:30 pm  

St pete wrote:

Wigan was just to good for us today. No excuses from me about anything. Maybe the odd high shot etc but nothing IMO that would have changed the game.

Our defence was woeful. I said early in the season I feel our defence isn't as good as it should be and I got shot down. Do people still think it's good? I certainly don't!

Pre-season we spoke about how strong our pack is but I'm not so sure. We've been dominated the last 3 weeks. Today I was embarrassed at how soft our pack was. Wigan was very aggressive and physical and we was soft. If you take Amor out the front row and we struggle big time.

I'm not so sure the Mose, walmsley, Lms combo can work. Mose and big Alex are knackered after 15 mins, Lms isn't a front line prop so we depend on Amor to much. IMHO we need a prop brought in who is fit, agile and can do mins. It's clear how we struggle when Amor off the field or doesn't play.

To much emphasis on Walsh. When he goes quite, we go quite. That's not his fault, we can't expect him to play every set. Obviously we need a 6 but that's no big shock.

Some awful performances today but what does Matty Dawson offer? I'd rather have Ade back on the wing than him. Poor in defence and dead in a attack.

Soft is the word I'd use too. Mose and Walmsley are impact props and very good at it, LMS is just a flat track bully

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:31 pm  

TheSaints87 wrote:

Who plays centre in the academy? Can we have anyone else there besides Wheeler

Percival back soon.

A little off topic but I think Saveilo playing against Widnes On Monday.