Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:56 am  

Our best pack and subs are

Walmsley
Roby
Amor
Manu
Flanagan
Wilkin

LMS
Masoe
Laffranchi
Soliola

Now i dont mind chopping and changing to rotate the squad but for the big games you need your best team.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:01 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

very strange comment to make. Walker at worst will go on and "become a clough" - but still has potential for much more. to write him off completely seems to be jumping the gun a little!

btw Wellens and Walmsley as a pair charged down every drop goal attempt I believe. Great effort from both of them.

Great effect especially walmsley for the big man to get up there so many times and nearly got the one that brough did get away all be it wide credit to them

Walker is a really good young player and ATM deserves his the chances he is getting yesterday IMO was his first poor game but would like to see him next week to see how he responds.

If he was late 20s then yeah could understand asking the question is he saints level? But he is still coming along and learning his trade and not really letting the team down, give the lad a chance lfcsaint

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:19 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

It simply comes down to I'd rather get Sia playing long minutes at the end of the season rather than the start! Keeping him as fresh as possible for as long as possible is a top priority.

I have question marks over manu this year - most players dip whilst contract negotiations go on (as I assume they are) - but maybe he just cant do the minutes he could last year ... no doubting his abilities ball in hand taking on the opposition though

Manu always starts the season slow. It was Easter last year before we seen the proper Manu. He's more suited to the dry ground.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:21 pm  

St pete wrote:

Manu always starts the season slow. It was Easter last year before we seen the proper Manu. He's more suited to the dry ground.

I don't think we can question his effort though. He's always working hard, even if the more flamboyant stuff hasn't come through yet.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:25 pm  

LFC Saint wrote:

Walker isent good enough for St Helens. Walker and Greenwood out and LMS, Wilkin in. Easy decision and i cannot believe LMS and Laffranchi missed out vs Hudds for a challenge cup tie. It very much nearly back fired as apart from the first 20 mins the Hudds pack dominated us.

Walker has been very good for us since he broke into the team. He wasn't great on his return from injury last year as he was carrying a extra stone in weight but he's a very good young prop that will never let us down.

Greenwood IMO has enormous potential and I know Brown feels the same. He's worked hard on his strength in the off season and it's noticeable this year. The lad can break tackles and is quick.

How you can write two very young lads off so soon is laughable.


IMO greenwood and Saveilo are the pick of the bunch.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:26 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I don't think we can question his effort though. He's always working hard, even if the more flamboyant stuff hasn't come through yet.

If he he's good ball he will make breaks.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:58 pm  

Manu is on the wrong side, he should be playing down the left.

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:10 pm  

St pete wrote:

Manu always starts the season slow. It was Easter last year before we seen the proper Manu. He's more suited to the dry ground.

sounds like he sould of been in the National lol

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:13 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Seems old Wello is as untouchable as I said he would be. Even though he's completely untouchable and cannot be dropped, surely he should still be included in the natural rotation element? The last thing we want is our weakest forward player in both attack and defense having to cope with fatigue as well?

Here we go again ....

There is no issue with Wello being part of squad rotation with our squad it makes sense to keep everyone fresh however
Wello was on a par with the defensively excellent Flanagan on Sat ( see RL Express stats). 28 tackles in 50 mins compared to 29 for Flanno. Walker 16 tackles with 4 misses ???

If there is one thing that Wello doesn't have a problem with is backing up week in week out and producing a consistently high level of performance - he's done it over 500 times you know! I suspected that after last week the younger forwards may struggle to back up the week after and the stats prove it. The players who should be rotated are the young ones that's how you protect them . They played well last week but one good game doesn't turn Ant Walker in to Sam Burgess.

I appreciate you may have dangled the bait ... However I am more than happy to take it to counter your ill informed propaganda .

Re: Wilkin Return : Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:37 pm  

St pete wrote:

Walker has been very good for us since he broke into the team. He wasn't great on his return from injury last year as he was carrying a extra stone in weight but he's a very good young prop that will never let us down.

Greenwood IMO has enormous potential and I know Brown feels the same. He's worked hard on his strength in the off season and it's noticeable this year. The lad can break tackles and is quick.

How you can write two very young lads off so soon is laughable.


IMO greenwood and Saveilo are the pick of the bunch.

You're very forgiving when it comes to your mate Ant... Like it is acceptable for a professional sportsman to return from injury a stone overweight. How does that happen. His performances were poor and no wonder if he's that much overweight. On Sat he struggled and showed that maybe he' s not ready for week in week out at SL level yet. We're in an ideal position to rotate the young lads so let's do it and accept that it's in their best interests. To leave out Lafranchi was an error of judgement in MHO.