Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:06 pm  

Maybe Walsh ain't the key for us this season, maybe it's keeping Wheeler fit.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:07 pm  

Our discipline stank, as seems to be the norm under Brown unfortunately, and Soliola deserves a ban (we were very lucky he wasn't sent off), but apart from that I thought we looked like a team that had been set free and Luke Walsh was key to that. Granted, that freedom meant some of the stuff we tried didn't work, but some of it did. And it was a joy to watch Luke Walsh in action. I thought he was great for Penrith but he was fabulous for us because IMO he is just what we have been lacking.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:09 pm  

Good Performance overall.

The "D" was great from start to finish.

A lot more attempts to be creative even if they went wrong at times.
The quality of passing at times was annoying but the desire to try and shift the ball was great.
The kicking of Walsh was a breath of fresh air.

Walsh and Amor were good. The pack was mean and the backs offered threat and pace.
Wheeler did well but still has a lot of making up to do, good start though.

Percival looked a bit vulnerable at times but coped. Walmsley was really destructive and
then on occasion become self destructive.

Wilkin was poor between bouts of loving himself and show-boating. Manu suffered from being on the right
and would be much better on the left, which compounds the irritation with Wilkin.

Wellens was, as expected , accommodated as he is Mr St Helens.

Saints were exciting and good to watch again. There is really something genuine to build on here.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:12 pm  

We did what we had to to.

For me, we gave up too much ball and our discipline was atrocious again. But great to see all 13 players knowing their role. Walsh looks very good and Wheeler complimented him really well. Nice to see our pack totally dominate too, but I suppose that's largely because the wolfs pack was awful.

Question masks still around Percival IMO. That first try was embarrassing to watch. If the wolfs had started GOB I think they'd have taken advantage of that more than they did.

It's a great starting point for us to improve from. Maybe if we played a top 4 team we could have taken more away from the game.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:13 pm  

What is it with Walmsley and the play the ball.

He's like Achilles. A great big man mountain with a dodgy little chink in his Armour.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:14 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

I also think Hohoia should be on the bench ahead of Wellens, who seemed to just be making up the numbers when he came on. Lance would add an injection of pace when teams are tiring.

Disagree about wello, offered nothing in attack granted but he seemed to make a lot of tackles (along with jones) - more importantly the entire team calmed down when he came on and we cut out (most of) the silly penalties and regain some composure we had lacked.

Whilst not enough against Flanaghan potentially, it makes him a better option than hohaia personally!

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:14 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Our discipline stank, as seems to be the norm under Brown unfortunately, and Soliola deserves a ban (we were very lucky he wasn't sent off), but apart from that I thought we looked like a team that had been set free and Luke Walsh was key to that. Granted, that freedom meant some of the stuff we tried didn't work, but some of it did. And it was a joy to watch Luke Walsh in action. I thought he was great for Penrith but he was fabulous for us because IMO he is just what we have been lacking.

Where the bloody hell have you been?!

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:18 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Disagree about wello, offered nothing in attack granted but he seemed to make a lot of tackles (along with jones) - more importantly the entire team calmed down when he came on and we cut out (most of) the silly penalties and regain some composure we had lacked.

Whilst not enough against Flanaghan potentially, it makes him a better option than hohaia personally!

I agree with this. Although I personally wouldn't play him, there was a noticeable effect when he came on to 'steady the ship'. We was playing quite erratically from about 45-60 minutes and we seemed to settle when he came on.

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:21 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Disagree about wello, offered nothing in attack granted but he seemed to make a lot of tackles (along with jones) - more importantly the entire team calmed down when he came on and we cut out (most of) the silly penalties and regain some composure we had lacked.

Whilst not enough against Flanaghan potentially, it makes him a better option than hohaia personally!

Forgot Jones. He was huge, lots of tackles but lots of important carries.

Wellens filled in a little at the end, nothing special.

Re No17 Hohaia has pace but no heart. Wellens has heart but no pace, Flannagan is an Aldi model.

Jones as super sub for me, along with Sia , Mose and Beaumont if he pans out..

Re: Well done saints : Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:23 pm  

Didn't that scoreline coming.....Good Grief !