Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:52 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Rubbish.

Never a red in a million years.

Bit late but the head came into contact with a Stains player then hit the ground.

I've seen worse avoid a penalty.

I'll do the jokes!

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:53 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Rubbish.

Never a red in a million years.

Bit late but the head came into contact with a Stains player then hit the ground.

I've seen worse avoid a penalty.

Why did Wane immediately take him off the pitch then? Or was it just a massive coincidence?

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:54 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Rubbish.

Never a red in a million years.

Bit late but the head came into contact with a Stains player then hit the ground.

I've seen worse avoid a penalty.

So all an accident and nothing at all to do with him dropping the point of his shoulder into the base of O'Brien's skull, late and from behind when he couldn't brace for it? It was a very deliberate cheap shot and very dangerous. Given the shoulder charge is a new rule change, you'd think they would be cracking down on it.

I bet you are cool with all the cannonball tackles Wigan do as well? How would you feel as a fan if someone ended Tomkins' or Hampshire's career with one of those?

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:55 pm  

Albion wrote:

Why did Wane immediately take him off the pitch then? Or was it just a massive coincidence?

Bloke behind me was saying if either player is taken off when an incident is put on report, it doesn't count as a substitution. Don't know how true that is, but it's particularly cynical of the Ape if it is true.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:56 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

So all an accident and nothing at all to do with him dropping the point of his shoulder into the base of O'Brien's skull, late and from behind when he couldn't brace for it? It was a very deliberate cheap shot and very dangerous. Given the shoulder charge is a new rule change, you'd think they would be cracking down on it.

I bet you are cool with all the cannonball tackles Wigan do as well? How would you feel as a fan if someone ended Tomkins' or Hampshire's career with one of those?

If Princess Sam was involved, it'd be a different matter altogether.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:57 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Bloke behind me was saying if either player is taken off when an incident is put on report, it doesn't count as a substitution. Don't know how true that is, but it's particularly cynical of the Ape if it is true.

That's only for the player on the receiving end of the malicious tackle, in this case. So the O'Brien sub did not count for us.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:04 pm  

Albion wrote:

That's only for the player on the receiving end of the malicious tackle, in this case. So the O'Brien sub did not count for us.

That's what I thought, but he was going on about how 'on report' means the incident is not ruled as 'innocent' and 'guilty', but that the whole thing is up. I suspect he's wrong, he talks a lot of nonsense, would be a daft rule if you could marmelise someone and get a free substitution for it.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:28 pm  

Saints would get a free sub due to the incident as it was O'Brien that was injured.
Subs following injury do not count in the 10.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:42 pm  

It was a shoulder charge - which as we know is now outlawed.

What I am unsure of is the punishment of said tackle. Is it a straight red? Tony Puletua was sent off away at Catalans for a shoulder charge, and that was BEFORE it was outlawed. And then there are the Moa and Bailey incidents. Is it a straight red card for a shoulder charge or just a penalty?

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:51 pm  

rammsteinbloke wrote:

It was a shoulder charge - which as we know is now outlawed.

Is it? I'm sure that a Wigan player shoulder charged Laffranchi when we were on their line and he dropped it. I don't actually think the refs pick up on it anymore.

See Briers' OBVIOUS shoulder charge one in their game against Wigan the other week. I don't actually think the refs will give it anymore.