Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:38 pm  

St pete wrote:

That's my point, they been going 30 years and its not worked in that time.

You could say the same for Salford, given their crowds and competitiveness, but they've been going as a rugby league club since 1896.

The south of France is also a union area. I've toured the south of France and it was heavily Rugby union but I agree its more rugby league than Paris was or ever will be.

The heartland area though was Catalonia, I believe, rather than the South of France per se.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:39 pm  

They beat us...

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:43 pm  

rammsteinbloke wrote:

They beat us...

Most teams do, that's nothing out the norm these days.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:45 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You could say the same for Salford, given their crowds and competitiveness, but they've been going as a rugby league club since 1896.

The heartland area though was Catalonia, I believe, rather than the South of France per se.

I just don't see what London bring. Nothing against them and I'd love them to do will but IMO its never going to work. Maybe the money keeping London going could be used in a place like Cumbria

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:55 pm  

St pete wrote:

I just don't see what London bring. Nothing against them and I'd love them to do will but IMO its never going to work. Maybe the money keeping London going could be used in a place like Cumbria

They get the same money as everyone else in Superleague. They shouldn't, since all other organisations pay London weighting, but they do.

Cumbria is a dead duck. You think London's crowds are poor! Ha. Nothing compared to what any Cumbrian team would bring. The towns up there aren't even big enough or RL friendly enough to support lower league teams and haven't been for a few decades now.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

They get the same money as everyone else in Superleague. They shouldn't, since all other organisations pay London weighting, but they do.

Cumbria is a dead duck. You think London's crowds are poor! Ha. Nothing compared to what any Cumbrian team would bring. The towns up there aren't even big enough or RL friendly enough to support lower league teams and haven't been for a few decades now.

The cumbrian teams have very large catchment areas. Barrow - Ulverston, Askam, Dalton and Millom.
Whitehaven - Egremont. Workington - Cleator, Cockermouth, Maryport.
Its London thats the dead duck it has a catchment area of millions but can only raise an average of 2000+

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:44 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

The cumbrian teams have very large catchment areas. Barrow - Ulverston, Askam, Dalton and Millom.
Whitehaven - Egremont. Workington - Cleator, Cockermouth, Maryport.
Its London thats the dead duck it has a catchment area of millions but can only raise an average of 2000+

The Cumbrian teams have massive catchment areas full of sheep. Cumbria is supposed to be part of the heartland area of the sport but cannot attract enough enthusiasm in the region to support Championship sides never mind a Superleague side.

London is a massive metropolis of over 6 million people representing every nation under the sun with massive competition from sports of all kinds plus every other leisure activity imaginable. It takes at least an hour to get from one side of the city to another, on a good day. It would take about five minutes to cross Cleator Moor!

Some RL fans need to spend time in London. If they did, they would quickly learn to appreciate the unique challenges of making anything a success in London, never mind the northern sport of rugby league.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

The Cumbrian teams have massive catchment areas full of sheep. Cumbria is supposed to be part of the heartland area of the sport but cannot attract enough enthusiasm in the region to support Championship sides never mind a Superleague side.

London is a massive metropolis of over 6 million people representing every nation under the sun with massive competition from sports of all kinds plus every other leisure activity imaginable. It takes at least an hour to get from one side of the city to another, on a good day. It would take about five minutes to cross Cleator Moor!

Some RL fans need to spend time in London. If they did, they would quickly learn to appreciate the unique challenges of making anything a success in London, never mind the northern sport of rugby league.

Cumbria has a LOT of rugby league fans who do not turn up at matches because of the current system. Whitehaven used to get 2,000 + every week in the Championship before relegation was removed.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:35 pm  

Dump London before they go bust again and add another team from Catalonia.

Re: If people think we're bad... : Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:12 am  

JonB95 wrote:

Cumbria has a LOT of rugby league fans who do not turn up at matches because of the current system. Whitehaven used to get 2,000 + every week in the Championship before relegation was removed.

Exactly having been up there for the past 12 years the potential is massive there are probably just as many amateur teams as in Lancashire and Yorkshire. Here we have lots of rugby fans who associate themselves with superleague clubs like Leeds, Bradford, Wigan and St Helens, lots of fans here feel as though the RFL are treating them as a lost cause, when in reality the lost cause is 300 miles south.

Also correct me if I am wrong but if the broncos move to Gillingham FC next year they can,t call themselves London they are just as close to Southend on Sea and Margate in Kent, any London based fans would need to travel 40 miles into another county to watch a "London Superleague Team".