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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:21 pm  
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I think we will go ok in the future, but there needs to be a bit of something this year for the fans to hold onto.

Damn right there does. Some of us have been killing ourselves financially to keep our season ticket DDs paid each month. Fans don't deserve a year of Brown's tinkering destroying any hopes of a win, never mind silverware (which frankly died long ago). If McManus has that plan in mind then he can shove next year's season ticket where the sun don't shine.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:36 pm  
I've said it before, looks to me like a team playing to get rid of the coach.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:41 pm  
I would not sack the coach. Whilst I think he needs to take responsibility for the halfbacks tonight. There is no way I would sack him.

He's building his own team and so some players are going to sulk and not play for him, they know they are on the way out or at least frozen out.

There is no future in playing year after year in the way we did under Potter and Rush. Whilst it's effective in gaining a top 4 slot, it's robotic and has lead to the current, stale team.

I'd say of the changes that Brown has made I'm in favour of 90% of them. If Rush or Potter where here, I think Wellens would have another 2 years, as would Meli and Perry et al.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:42 pm  
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I've said it before, looks to me like a team playing to get rid of the coach.


There just seems to be a complete lack of desire and passion on both sides. Brown seems to have a look of bemusement on his face when watching Saints and he's never animated. KC tonight looked like he was sat in detention. The players don't ever seem to step it up or show that will to win that teams of old did.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:55 pm  
RE the positional changes.....that was the biggest let down of his reign at us - some of them were downright ridiculous - Gilmour and Faiumu as props !!! - this was the thing we warned you about and it seems he's at it again with you lot !!
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:00 pm  
It does seem to me that there is a battle on at Saints. And quite frankly I don't want the players to win again and face another year of slow and steady, with Lance back at 6, etc etc etc.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:14 pm  
If players know something is not right in their coaching they should be able to have some input. Daniel Anderson agreed to change his tactics at the request of the players and Brown was clearly shown by the Huddersfield players they didn't agree with his methods.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:18 pm  
This is refreshing.

Until now Brown has been some sort of sacred cow and to criticise him meant being slaaged off on here. The players actually tried their best which without structure and a game plan, meant a somewhat plucky but inveitable defeat.

Attack - was dreadful; no planned moves, no imagination, no invention and no dummy runners - no chance.

Midfield - we actually did OK the pack was quite good and the metreage showed that.

Defence - was appalling. Like last week, we got the numbers completely wrong. Whoever is supposed to organise the defence (Wello?) didn't do it. Same last week agaiinst wire every time they attacked we were short on whichever side . Even the sky mob (John Wells) spotted that. Why couldn't Brown.

GOB (who can be excused as first game, but doesn't look like a game changer), HiHo looked dreadful again as did Meli who nees more caffine. Wilkin looked out of place and Wello blew hot and cold as did Jones.

It's time people stopped making excuses for Brown. I've been saying this for weeks - he is tactically naive and sticks with his own "sacred cows".
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Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:51 pm  
St pete wrote:
Lets be honest tho, he's having to deal with other coaches mistakes and the current squad is rubbish.

The squad is one of the worst I've ever seen. Its quicker to name the players I rate than the ones I don't.

However, the defence is utter rubbish. We are all over the place.


It's the same squad as last year which finished 3rd. Only difference is Turner and Manu have replaced Shenton.
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Re: Nathan Brown : Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:58 am  
What have you done with Manu, he looks really overweight and unfit, watching him last night he did one run then had his hands of his hips catching his breath.
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