Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:45 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I'm not criticising him, just saying Ablett wasn't "in his pocket" and his defence will improve as he fills out.

Young players aren't perfect; I'm just saying he's looked a bit lightweight in defence at times. It's not criticism, it's perspective when people are saying he had a player who ran over him once "in his pocket".

You'll note I said "he did a good job" in defence, how that is criticism is beyond me. He looks all class in attack and his defence is decent in the circumstances and will improve.

You are "under-playing" his defence effort against someone "double his size". Maybe I was "getting a little carried away" with the metaphor, but he did really really well against "Ablett".

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:45 pm  

Albion wrote:

You are "under-playing" his defence effort against someone "double his size". Maybe I was "getting a little carried away" with the metaphor, but he did really really well against Ablett.

Like I said, he did a good job!

We're making the "same" ( ) point - you're saying he did well given he is undersized, I'm saying he is undersized so will struggle physically at times (and he did at times against Leeds, despite doing really well) but his defence is decent in the circumstances and will improve.

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:50 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He can be anything.
Three ties against Saints on Sunday, really outplayed Charnock, his pace if frightening. I have a feeling Wigan may give him a run at fullback.

Does that mean you're resigning yourself to Tomkins leaving, or do you just mean when they ease him into the first team?

As I mentioned to you once, I was suprised he's a stand off and not a 7 as the videos of him I've seen on you tube (plaing for england) make him look more like a first receiver type.

I was a bit dissapointed that we only got to see Charnock in a snow storm and then he's been dropped for Wellens (especially given the way many other youngsters were given a chance against Cas). Its almost like he played him against Salford as a statement of intend to Gaskell

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:00 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Does that mean you're resigning yourself to Tomkins leaving, or do you just mean when they ease him into the first team?

As I mentioned to you once, I was suprised he's a stand off and not a 7 as the videos of him I've seen on you tube (plaing for england) make him look more like a first receiver type.

I was a bit dissapointed that we only got to see Charnock in a snow storm and then he's been dropped for Wellens (especially given the way many other youngsters were given a chance against Cas). Its almost like he played him against Salford as a statement of intend to Gaskell

I'm almost certain Sam will go, but I'm not sure yet whether it will be at the end of this season or next.

Hampshire is still only second year (u18) so I hope he doesn't get thrown in too early or for too long. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing this Sunday, but they may leave him until the Cup game (obviously depending on the draw) when hopefully we will a few of the bigger lads back in the pack.

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:19 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I'm almost certain Sam will go, but I'm not sure yet whether it will be at the end of this season or next.

Where to, in your opinion?

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:27 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Where to, in your opinion?

Sarries

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:30 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Where to, in your opinion?

Saracens.......... on £500K a year, paid for by the RFU...... no team in S/L can match that and be competitive with the rest of the squad on a Cap of only £1.65m

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:33 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Offside Monkey wrote:

Where to, in your opinion?

Sarries

How on Earth will he fit in playing RU? I honestly don't know where he'd play and whether he'll have the space to do what he does in League.

I personally think he'll be making a massive mistake going to Union and I'd lose any sort of respect for him. I would have thought he'd go to Australia. Let's hope so anyway.

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:39 pm  

Albion wrote:

How on Earth will he fit in playing RU? I honestly don't know where he'd play and whether he'll have the space to do what he does in League.

I personally think he'll be making a massive mistake going to Union and I'd lose any sort of respect for him. I would have thought he'd go to Australia. Let's hope so anyway.

Has the new money in the NRL started to materialise in contracts? Has the new sponsorship/salary cap arrangement started with this new season?

Re: Mark Percival and Josh Jones : Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:01 pm  

Albion wrote:

How on Earth will he fit in playing RU? I honestly don't know where he'd play and whether he'll have the space to do what he does in League.

I personally think he'll be making a massive mistake going to Union and I'd lose any sort of respect for him. I would have thought he'd go to Australia. Let's hope so anyway.

Agree it will be a mistake but it will be Union.

He's got a Union agent, a Union playing brother and a heap of Union mates. He'll go at the end of the season IMO (after our World Cup) to give him a couple of years to get ready for their World Cup in 2015.

He'll end up a bit part player in Union IMO because he won't have a position.