Re: Josh Perry : Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:04 pm  

St. Rughead wrote:

I think he'll come in for Clough, who doesn't seem to be making his usual yards.

Clough has only just come back from injury and has had no gametime or proper pre season I'm sure he will improve as he gets more gametime.

Re: Josh Perry : Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:13 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Clough has only just come back from injury and has had no gametime or proper pre season I'm sure he will improve as he gets more gametime.

Although Clough hardly ever makes any errors, I am not really impressed with him as a prop. He just twists and runs backwards into players, and doesn't make much headway doing that.

Re: Josh Perry : Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:00 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Although Clough hardly ever makes any errors, I am not really impressed with him as a prop. He just twists and runs backwards into players, and doesn't make much headway doing that.

Thats how I see him, when he first came on the scene thought he might develop into an "Andy Platt" type of prop. I know he has injuries but what you see of him now is most likely the finished article, wish he could be doing more tackle busts and create an offloading game. Not a starting 17 player for me but a fringe player who will not let you down for effort.

Re: Josh Perry : Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:35 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Thats how I see him, when he first came on the scene thought he might develop into an "Andy Platt" type of prop. I know he has injuries but what you see of him now is most likely the finished article, wish he could be doing more tackle busts and create an offloading game. Not a starting 17 player for me but a fringe player who will not let you down for effort.

Unless his game develops, he'll stay a 4th choice prop, but he mad more yards last year thanlaffranchi from less carries and was one of the better players going forward in the defeat to Leeds. Often when we lose and the pack isn't performing , Clough plods a long at normal rate and is actually one of our best go forward guys.
We're in a salary capped game and clough's lack of what might be considered star quality, combined with a good ability to gain yards and defend reliably, should mean that he's excellent value for money.

Re: Josh Perry : Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:26 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Although Clough hardly ever makes any errors, I am not really impressed with him as a prop. He just twists and runs backwards into players, and doesn't make much headway doing that.

the stats would disagree with you, it doesn't look pretty or glamourous but he makes good yardage. Cloughy is excellent value for money

Re: Josh Perry : Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:39 am  

Regarding Clough: Read the sig.

Perry I thought was our decent prop when we where going no where in early round against Huddersfield. I also think he adds competition for places which is good and will keep the younger fellas eager to perform.

Walker and Greenwood will only get better by being spelled like Graham was in his early days. Also if Perry plays prop, does that not open up the oppertunity to play Laffranchi in a more appropriate role at SR???

With regards to LMS, I feel he has to start matches, when he comes on half way through he offers less, but as a starter, he's right into the action and seams to respond to that.

option A
LMS Roby Perry Manu Sia Wellens
bench: TP Laffrachie Flanagan Walker

option B
LMS Roby TP Laffranchi Sia Flanagan
bench: Greenwood, Clough, Manu, Wellens

option C
Warmsley Roby Perry Manu Sia Wellens
bench: LMS, TP, Clough, Laffranchi

etc. Keep those props fit, rotated and raring to go

Re: Josh Perry : Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:17 am  

What about option D.......
LMS...Roby.....Perry.....Manu......Sia......Wellens
Bench
Walmsley.....TP.......Laffranchi.......Flanagan

Walmsley and TP to come on together adding size, impact and momentum.
Laffranchi to rest Manu and Sia over the 80 mins
Flanagan to get approx 30 min game time 20 mins for Wellens, 10 mins for Roby.


Agree LMS. Is not an impact prop and neither is Perry, a TP and Walmsley would be a handful against a tiring defence.

Re: Josh Perry : Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:21 am  

Judder Man wrote:

What about option D.......
LMS...Roby.....Perry.....Manu......Sia......Wellens
Bench
Walmsley.....TP.......Laffranchi.......Flanagan

Walmsley and TP to come on together adding size, impact and momentum.
Laffranchi to rest Manu and Sia over the 80 mins
Flanagan to get approx 30 min game time 20 mins for Wellens, 10 mins for Roby.

I could have gone on, hence the etc....

On paper I'd say option E is possibly our biggest pack, something that maybe needed against the likes of Wigan.

LMS Roby Perry Manu Sia Laffranchi
bench
TP Clough Warmsley Walker

Re: Josh Perry : Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:23 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I could have gone on, hence the etc....

On paper I'd say option E is possibly our biggest pack, something that maybe needed against the likes of Wigan.

LMS Roby Perry Manu Sia Laffranchi
bench
TP Clough Warmsley Walker

Option F is a more Mobile Pack

LMS Lance Laffranchi Manu Sia Wellens

bench
Flanagan, TP, Warmsley Roby

Re: Josh Perry : Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:59 am  

I think he deserves his chance to get back into the squad. I would let him start a game and i dont mean a meaningless hit out against Salford 2 weeks from now. Stick him in on Good Friday and go tell him to make himself known and get stuck in. He's a big lad, he needs to start acting like one, run your weight with passion and pride not just for yourself but for the club.
If it doesnt work out, take your seat in the stands Josh, thanks for coming.