Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:45 pm  

Is Wheeler still alive?

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:48 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

Just read that! But it seems to be their opinion that we will only finish top because Wire and Leeds can't be bothered to.

To be honest, I think that is perfectly true. We will probably only need to improve a little bit to overtake the likes of Wigan and Warrington, who appear to be going backwards, Wigan quite quickly, and Warrington who are aging and not recruiting. Leeds are really an odd team, and we'll have no idea how we stack up against them until October.

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:04 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

I think Clough offers us balance as a "plodder"

But, isn't it harsh to label him a plodder when he's made more yards than Boof, Perry and Puletua?

He's not perfect, he doesn't get many offloads, and perhaps he's can't dominate the attacker as well as Perry, but he makes the yards and has a very low error/penalty/missed tackle rate.
Add to that he probably doesn't command the biggest wage, I'd say he's a pretty useful squad member.

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:28 pm  

Read the sig.

perfectly describes my thoughts on Clough

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:33 pm  

As a neutral who are your 1st choice wingers, Makinson on the right? Whoever is on the left side could be in for as treat inside Manu.

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:02 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

But, isn't it harsh to label him a plodder when he's made more yards than Boof, Perry and Puletua?

He's not perfect, he doesn't get many offloads, and perhaps he's can't dominate the attacker as well as Perry, but he makes the yards and has a very low error/penalty/missed tackle rate.
Add to that he probably doesn't command the biggest wage, I'd say he's a pretty useful squad member.

Plodder was an unfair description, however, it was to separate him from the flashy players like TP, Soliola and Manu, who will hit the headlines, make the breaks, and score the tries. I am in total agreement with your assesment of him as a valuable member of the squad, and see the fact that he is a "plodder" as a positive, not a negative.

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:59 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

I think Clough offers us balance as a "plodder" when we have so many players that are out and out attackers, in TP, Manu, LMS and Sia. He is the steady workhorse that we need to be able to allow the others to shine. Don't underestimate his value to the team as a whole.

agreed

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:36 pm  

lummy wrote:

As a neutral who are your 1st choice wingers, Makinson on the right? Whoever is on the left side could be in for as treat inside Manu.

Meli. He'll drop everything Manu gives him. He's dropped just about everything for the last 5 years.

Re: New season preparation : Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:09 pm  

Allez wrote:

Meli. He'll drop everything Manu gives him. He's dropped just about everything for the last 5 years.

Wow, the season hasn't even started and already the Melissa bashing has begun.

Re: New season preparation : Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:27 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Wow, the season hasn't even started and already the Melissa bashing has begun.

ball in hand he is a great player, in defance.....well it says it all when a whole stand is in shock when he catchs a bomb on the full.

i dont like calling players but i cant believe he still plays for saints bearing in mind the amount of big and high profile mistakes he has made in the past no matter how good he is going forward