Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:42 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Chatting with Dux over the weekend, he mentioned he thought that Liam Finn, the Featherstone 7, would be worth a punt.

Just a thought. I reckon we need a competent organising and kicking halfback. He doesn't need to be flashy at all - someone to do what Deacon did for Wigan in 2010 would be spot on. From what I've seen of Finn he ticks those boxes, although I'd prefer to see Gaskell developed into a top stand off.

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:02 am  

Dux wrote:

Just a thought. I reckon we need a competent organising and kicking halfback. He doesn't need to be flashy at all - someone to do what Deacon did for Wigan in 2010 would be spot on. From what I've seen of Finn he ticks those boxes, although I'd prefer to see Gaskell developed into a top stand off.

Its not a bad shout, though.
Danny Brough, who is trupmted as a "real" scrum half, was picked up from a lower league club, wasn't he?
Besides, even in the Oldham challegne cup game, the opposition still had a bvetter kicking game than us.
Assuming he hasn't got a stellar job outside of league, someone like Finn shouldn't take that much persueding to come to saints, would he?

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:57 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Hull are after an NRL half back in Prince!!!

Great to see them investing in a youth policy

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:37 pm  

ExiledWool wrote:

Great to see them investing in a youth policy

How much did we invest in youth when we were winning with

Long - Wigan
Sculthorpe - Oldham
Darren Albert - Oz
Martyn - Leigh
Lyon - Oz
Sean hoppe - Oz
Fozzard - Wire
Cunningham - Saints
Wellens - Saints
Newlove - Featherstone or was it bradford


etc

you get the point, youth production is fine, but it does not gaurantee success, it may gaurantee being at the top table for a sustained period as that strong underbelly keeps those in the first team pushing for places and gives us that support when injuries hit. But Youth is not the be all and end all. I'm a Gaskell fan, but I would not be against Prince coming over. However the deal Hull are looking at would not be something I would want Saints to do given his injury record.

I don't think he has been playing alot so it's a bit of a gamble to spend such a huge portion of the cap on someone who will be 33 for 3 years. Not many half backs I can recall playing at 36. If it was a 1 or a 2 year deal then who knows, but even that carries a risk if he is injury prone.

We got Perry when he was playing SOO and people bash the club for that, so if we signed a 33 year old who is not playing SOO or even playing because of injury, I can only imagine the comments.

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:07 pm  

Bill Sonny wrote: The Wallabies first choice Fly half will pack all the fame and money of Australia to up root, move his entire life to live in and play for St Helens of the Super League for far less money and almost certainly a far poorer lifestyle you couldn't make it up, classic Life imitates fiction. Prince to Hull looking on the cards? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/20003832 Obviously Hull is just like North Queensland.

Bill Sonny wrote: The Wallabies first choice Fly half will pack all the fame and money of Australia to up root, move his entire life to live in and play for St Helens of the Super League for far less money and almost certainly a far poorer lifestyle you couldn't make it up, classic Life imitates fiction. Prince to Hull looking on the cards? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/20003832 Obviously Hull is just like North Queensland.

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:56 pm  

looks like an off the cuff kinda player! hope this is true http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeUbxfydvhs

looks like an off the cuff kinda player! hope this is true http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeUbxfydvhs

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:09 pm  

He is a class act, there's no doubt about it, but the NRL will be his destination if he left RU.

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:12 pm  

Pfff... Just look at the skills on this guy instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvB7gyb2KmU What a player... (And I'm now starting a completely preposterous and utterly unfounded rumour that he's signing for Saints next season, so here goes) I've heard it from an absolutely watertight source that Lionel Messi is bored earning gazillions playing football in the sun and culture of Barcelona and wants to come and play RL in the north west of England instead!!! And a member of the Saints board told me that we're red hot favourites to sign him after offering him a nice semi in Eccleston and all the splits and babbies' 'eds he can eat. Wow! What an exciting back line we'll have next year, eh?

Pfff... Just look at the skills on this guy instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvB7gyb2KmU What a player... (And I'm now starting a completely preposterous and utterly unfounded rumour that he's signing for Saints next season, so here goes) I've heard it from an absolutely watertight source that Lionel Messi is bored earning gazillions playing football in the sun and culture of Barcelona and wants to come and play RL in the north west of England instead!!! And a member of the Saints board told me that we're red hot favourites to sign him after offering him a nice semi in Eccleston and all the splits and babbies' 'eds he can eat. Wow! What an exciting back line we'll have next year, eh?

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:30 pm  

ExiledWool wrote:

Great to see them investing in a youth policy

great to see another poster not finding out his facts!!

lineham
kent
bowden
green
crooks
nicklas
cunningham

all played in 2012 from our youth/u20s

Re: Quade Cooper as our new Scrum half?????? : Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:58 am  

ExiledWool wrote:

Great to see them investing in a youth policy

I don't see why the is such a big obsession with youth on this board. It's a great if you can produce a long line of young lads but the reality is, that won't happen.

I've no problem with hull signing a 32 year old halfback on if they ain't got one at the club that's good enough, no doubt Prince will improve hull so they will be stronger.

We can't exactly moan about bringing old overseas players either, we've brought Manu, Laffranchi, Perry and hohaia all 30 plus (think lance is 29 but will be 33 when his contract expires)