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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:37 pm  
It's always the way. But what can we do, play him all year and then drop him for knock out rugby???
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:45 pm  
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I disagree. I think he has had one or two matches in which he has missed a ball. That's it though. But maybe the dullness of our rugby has erased my memory!

What do you mean by 'beat a man' exactly? Do you mean on his kick returns? Because if you do although he doesn't have that strength yet (he's only just turned 20 and clearly is of a lean frame) he got his head through in the tackle on every return tonight. Not only that but I remember in the playoffs last year against Wigan how he turned Sam Tomkins inside out so he's capable of sidestepping his opposition.

He needs more chances. I think he has abilities that are being neglected as the ball hardly ever goes his way. Tonight it did and look, he scored a brace.


Yes I'm on about his kick returns. I know he's only just turned 20 but I've seen the likes of charnley, tomkins, Briscoe, hall etc all beat men at that age.

Only time will tell of he will make a fullback but IMO hohaia should be #1 next year.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:46 pm  
Makinson still looks like a rabbit in headlights nearly every time he has the ball and just doesn't seem to know what to do with it half the time - he has the physical attributes to be a top player at #1 or #2/#5 but just not the instincts (at least not yet). For me he'll end up a centre when he's bulked up a bit.

And Meli is one of the top 5 wingers in SL and our best outside back by a country mile and has been for a good few years now. As always the kneejerkers sit coiled waiting for him to have an off game (ignoring all the good games he's had in the meantime) so they can launch into action and justify their little one-eyed pre-formed opinions with only the slightest evidence to be able to support it.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:46 pm  
*double post* Grrrrrr
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:57 pm  
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Makinson still looks like a rabbit in headlights nearly every time he has the ball and just doesn't seem to know what to do with it half the time - he has the physical attributes to be a top player at #1 or #2/#5 but just not the instincts (at least not yet). For me he'll end up a centre when he's bulked up a bit.

And Meli is one of the top 5 wingers in SL and our best outside back by a country mile and has been for a good few years now. As always the kneejerkers sit coiled waiting for him to have an off game (ignoring all the good games he's had in the meantime) so they can launch into action and justify their little one-eyed pre-formed opinions with only the slightest evidence to be able to support it.



I think one more year on the wing won't do tommy any harm.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:04 pm  
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Makinson still looks like a rabbit in headlights nearly every time he has the ball and just doesn't seem to know what to do with it half the time - he has the physical attributes to be a top player at #1 or #2/#5 but just not the instincts (at least not yet). For me he'll end up a centre when he's bulked up a bit.

And Meli is one of the top 5 wingers in SL and our best outside back by a country mile and has been for a good few years now. As always the kneejerkers sit coiled waiting for him to have an off game (ignoring all the good games he's had in the meantime) so they can launch into action and justify their little one-eyed pre-formed opinions with only the slightest evidence to be able to support it.

You talk utter drivel.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:16 pm  
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Yes I'm on about his kick returns. I know he's only just turned 20 but I've seen the likes of charnley, tomkins, Briscoe, hall etc all beat men at that age.

How often do you see Meli beat a man? How often do you see Gardner beat a man? Not often, on either count. Saints appear to use wingers as battering rams rather than evasive options.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:19 pm  
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How often do you see Meli beat a man? How often do you see Gardner beat a man? Not often, on either count. Saints appear to use wingers as battering rams rather than evasive options.



Makinson isn't the same style of winger as Meli or Gardner and they are getting on now, makinson is young, suppose to be fast but I just don't see how he can beat a man.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:22 pm  
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Makinson isn't the same style of winger as Meli or Gardner and they are getting on now, makinson is young, suppose to be fast but I just don't see how he can beat a man.

Right, so you happily excuse two decidedly average wingers because they aren't the 'same style' (what style are they anyway?) and because they are old, but you'll criticise a guy who has yet to play a full season, is playing in a position he didn't play until first team, and who always, always plays his best games in crunch matches. And all over one move in a match.

Well done you.
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Re: Meli moments ... : Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:24 pm  
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Right, so you happily excuse two decidedly average wingers because they aren't the 'same style' (what style are they anyway?) and because they are old, but you'll criticise a guy who has yet to play a full season, is playing in a position he didn't play until first team, and who always, always plays his best games in crunch matches. And all because he doesn't hop and skip around opposition players or plough them into the ground or something.

Well done you.


You've taken my post totally the wrong way, I'll leave it there, I'm not going to be one of your many enemies on here.
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