Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:20 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Saints don't have the best pack in the league, by a comfortable margin.

We'll agree to disagree. I think if Saints' first choice 10 turn up to play then they just about get the upper hand over anybody else in the league. That clearly didn't happen tonight, but there's not much more then could have done with such a dire showing from the backs.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:28 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

We'll agree to disagree. I think if Saints' first choice 10 turn up to play then they just about get the upper hand over anybody else in the league. That clearly didn't happen tonight, but there's not much more then could have done with such a dire showing from the backs.

I think you are doing your threequartes an injustice. They speculated and probed with some return. Your pack got little change from Warrington.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:32 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

I think you are doing your threequartes an injustice. They speculated and probed with some return. Your pack got little change from Warrington.

We need solid, mistake-free performances from the wide-guys to beat Warrington and we didn't get them. To me that's the reason we lost first and foremost.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:36 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

A 5 -1 penalty count in Saints favor clearly shows indiscipline from Wire. The fact that Wire were still able to dominate the majority of the game despite being behind on the penalty count shows the gulf in class between the two side's.

I will let you deduce how those penalties were conceded, relative the possession stats........

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:58 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

I think if Saints' first choice 10 turn up to play then they just about get the upper hand over anybody else in the league

It wouldn't matter if you had Gallen, Burgess, Graham and Kasiano in the front row if a team is so completely obsessed with completing sets that the opposition know whats coming- first reciever drive. Almost EVERY time, the other time just have to wedge the middle shut.

Whilst the kicking game didn't help, these tactics will beat the lesser teams but not the better ones unless they have an off day.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:00 pm  

apart from that second try we scored there isn't one move in this team
barge...barge...barge...and the lack of speed is concerning.
forget this season and see what brown and the new signings bring next year.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:01 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

We need solid, mistake-free performances from the wide-guys to beat Warrington and we didn't get them. To me that's the reason we lost first and foremost.

Maybe you had to be at the game to see why we lost.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:26 pm  

Warrington were much the better side throughout the 80 minutes, a 10 point defeat flattered us.

The only worry if I was a Wire fan is why they didn't rack up a cricket score against such an inept Saints performance.

Re: nice n easy.... : Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:39 pm  

mistermoo wrote:

Maybe you had to be at the game to see why we lost.

I know why we lost - we're utterly one-dimensional and predictable with no functioning halves, an inexperienced mistake-prone 3/4 line and no kicking game at all. Match our forwards with a good backline as happened tonight and we're completely buggered. We can still win the big games given the basic quality of our pack, and could maybe still have done so tonight without the gifts from our backs, but we need the forwards to all be on top form and for the backs to stay solid in defence to be able to do so. It may just be a case of putting this season behind us and seeing what Brown can do next year at this point, but we're still in with a shout.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:30 am  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

We have the best pack in the leagues

Good lord