Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:29 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Good signing for Castleford. They've now got better backs than we have, much like most of the other also-rans in the league.

What's the point of letting him go exactly? I don't care what anyone says, Turner is no better, if we sign him that is. In terms of pace he's no doubt a bit quicker, but in terms of centre play he's not as good as Shenton. I think Turner will very quickly become next season's scapegoat. And even if you assume Turner is a centre, it still leaves us with only 1 established centre in the squad. Big weakness again I feel, perhaps someone should point out that a squad needs at least 2?

I just hope the club has something special lined up to surprise us with. A lot has been made about Brown's desire to sign a half back, which I find utterly stupid considering we've got Gaskell and Lomax. It's rumoured Makinson is moving to fullback, Hohaia to 9 from the bench, so where does Gaskell fit in exactly? Wigan?

I know they can't come out and explain their plans for obvious reasons, but it all seems rather random to me and the fact we're bidding for Matty Smith when we've got Gaskell and Lomax doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that we'll get these decisions right, when we've been getting them wrong for 5 years and more.

We've only played with one centre for past seasons so it won't make any difference. I'm glad other fans are starting to notice that teams play with two centres.

It's strange this announced now after the txt I got which I pm you the other day. Maybe that txt was right.

In the cas announcemt it also says they will announce more signings in recent weeks, if that is gilmour then it looks like the players txt could be spot on.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:32 am  

St pete wrote:

We've only played with one centre for past seasons so it won't make any difference. I'm glad other fans are starting to notice that teams play with two centres.

It's strange this announced now after the txt I got which I pm you the other day. Maybe that txt was right.

In the cas announcemt it also says they will announce more signings in recent weeks, if that is gilmour then it looks like the players txt could be spot on.

How cryptic!

PM too pls?

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:50 am  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

In terms of Turner being ordinary, he may well turn out to be so. But as Shenton has been the definition of ordinary, the worst case scenario is we'll have replaced like for like and saved some cap space.

Agreed. If we're going to get average, then we should be paying average.

There's still a good centre in Shenton, we've seen it in glimpses inthe past few weeks with the classy work against leeds and his break round Horne at Hull, but he's a centre that needs to come from deep for things to work and, atht e moment, that doesn't seem in our play book. A player with a bit more basic raw power probably suits us.
I'm just glad Wigan didn't dip in for him - their flowing moves would have made him look top drawer and we'd have had to put up with all the pie eater having another reason to crow at us.

Good luck Mike.

As for us only having one established centre (if we sign Turner) for next year. I'd hope that by the end of this season, Josh Jones has erased that problem.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:19 am  

What about Jamie Lyon?

Everyone knows Manley are in the **** with the cap for next season

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:29 am  

king warrior wrote:

What about Jamie Lyon?

Everyone knows Manley are in the **** with the cap for next season

As we keep having to remind each other every time rumours arise of a quality overseas signing, we'd need to offload one of our contracted overseas players to sign him.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:37 am  

St pete wrote:

We've only played with one centre for past seasons so it won't make any difference. I'm glad other fans are starting to notice that teams play with two centres.

It's strange this announced now after the txt I got which I pm you the other day. Maybe that txt was right.

In the cas announcemt it also says they will announce more signings in recent weeks, if that is gilmour then it looks like the players txt could be spot on.

Certainly looks that way, all the ducks are falling into a row. But the PM was hardly full of positive news for us was it. Did you find out what the score is with Wello?

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:58 am  

So our end of the swap deal for Rangi is tied up.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:49 am  

By all accounts saints are paying a percentage of Shentons wage for the first year so any saving made by replacing him with Turner will be negligible. Seems a strange move to me, surely signing turner in addition to Shenton would have been a better move? As a replacement it seems a downgrade. And is Turner an out-and-out natural centre anyway? He's shown decent form for parts of this season but spent an awful lot of his career playing in other positions.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:10 am  

If we are paying a bit of Shentons's wage then Cas have shoved it back up us and we've been taken for mugs.

Re: Michael Shenton : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:19 am  

Theboyem wrote:

By all accounts saints are paying a percentage of Shentons wage for the first year so any saving made by replacing him with Turner will be negligible.

In monetary terms you are correct. But in salary cap terms it would free up some space. Us paying Shenton wouldn't matter as he wouldn't be registerd in our squad so it wouldn't count on the cap.