Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 7:18 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

He might add weight, but he won't add pace, he's as fast now as he ever will be. Not that that is a bad thing, when he is in space he is fast.

He should be able to add a yard of pace, otherwise olympic sprint champions would all be teenage lads.
The reality is that they are usually in their mid to late twentys when they start bringing home the gold gongs.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 7:27 pm  

They are sprinters. Ergo, thats what they train, sprint technique and target the muscles required for explosive speed. Gaskell is a rugby player. 2 different things.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 7:58 pm  

Saint77777 wrote:

They are sprinters. Ergo, thats what they train, sprint technique and target the muscles required for explosive speed. Gaskell is a rugby player. 2 different things.

Saints used to do sprint training on a regular basis. I don't know whether they still do it.

Rugby players can be pushed on in their pace too, you know, and some will be natural sprinters.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 8:19 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Probably confirms that finch is on his way out. You'd have to say that Gaskell and smith aren't exactly inspiring signings, added to tge likes of gelling and the trogs and Wigan do seem to be going for mediocrity. Ok while the team is dull of confidence, but when the bubble bursts they will be found out.

Could be they have SC / image rights payments problems?

After all they maxed out with Sam and had to turn to sky for assistance to boost his salary.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 9:11 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

He might add weight, but he won't add pace, he's as fast now as he ever will be. Not that that is a bad thing, when he is in space he is fast.

How can he be at his fastest when he hasn't even developed fully? It'll be somewhere around 22/23 when his speed hits its peak (provided he doesn't add weight or pick up some injury).

As for the idea that sprint coaches cannot improve a player's basic speed - utter rubbish. Ask Doug Laughton how much speed Andy Currier gained after three months of sprint training. That bloke went from a reasonably quick centre/winger to someone who could go the entire length of the field without anyone gaining so much as a yard on him.

Graeme West once gave an interview in which he talked about the benefits of bringing in that 400m runner from Wigan whose name escapes me. IIRC, his entire back line clocked significantly faster times after one pre-season.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 9:45 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Danny Brough epitomises the word Journeyman halfback



You hear fans talk about his superb kicking game and great pace, but the reality is that he rarely uses these skills.
.

You are joking.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 9:59 pm  

Sorry if this as been said.If we are after Smith? Is it to play S/H or S/O? If it's S/H? Where will Lomax play.

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 10:52 pm  

I'd be surprised if we let Gaskell go, for me when he bulks up he'd be an old school ball playing 13

Re: MATTY SMITH : Thu May 31, 2012 11:00 pm  

Smith is a major step down from Finch for Wigan. Though the option is now there for them to move Tomkins back to Stand off playing next to him

Re: MATTY SMITH : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:09 am  

I'd personally move Lomax to fullback for next season. I love Wellens, I really do but the role of a fullback as changed through the years. Lomax could do the kind of damage that Tomkins does at Wigan.

I'd use Hohaia as a hooker to give Roby a rest. We've had a lot of success at interchanging hookers in the past but we expect Roby to do the full stint now.

I really like Wheeler. If he could just stay fit I'd play him at 6. I'd like to keep Gaskell too.

We just need a clever scrum half. An organiser. He doesn't need to be lightning fast with an eye for running through a gap. He'll have players that can do that around him. Goulding was amazing at that. Not sure Matty Smith is the long term solution though but I'd have him at Saints tomorrow.