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Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:58 pm  
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Hats off to LMS. He's really had a go. The only Saints player whose performance could be approached without a gasmask.


True.

A couple of players but in *OK* performances to go with LMS's good showing - but apart from that, garbage.
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Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 7:03 pm  
Carlos Alberto wrote:
Sadly, we got Royce Simmons.

Except he was fired months ago. So this is nothing to do with him. We've got Rush and Cunningham, ie two extremely inexperienced individuals who were dropped on by a Chairman who thought we were still the 2006 team. He may now realise that we are not.
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Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 7:34 pm  
[quote="Carlos Alberto"]What we're seeing here is the fruits of a well drilled coaching set up. Wigan got it right with Maguire and his backroom team, and it is continuing now. Also benefits their youngsters greatly, who look leagues ahead of ours.
Got to agree.
Wigan are well coached and playing at the top of their game. They are far from the best ever Wigan side but they seem to be performing at 100% in attack and defence. Moreover, to give them credit they have a passion based on the recruitment of local players.

Lessons for us - build a 'team' as well as going for 'names'. We have a small nucleus of a team who could win trophies in the long term - Lomax, Roby. It is clear that we need two other elements for the spine ie full back and stand off and two big hard nuts in the pack to induce fear.
I cannot go along with others on the board in any abject criticism of Wello. He has been our best ever full back and soon he will join the queue of former greats Joynt, Long, Scully who were surrounded by class players when we were perennial trophy winners.
We were great just six days ago but the opposition today were on another level. We cannot panic mid-season and I feel we will still be too good for most of the other teams in SL.
Thought I would comment before all the killer negative bandwagons roll back into town.
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: Sun May 27, 2012 8:44 pm  
LMS gave it everything, always liked Wilkin give him 100% support but now he is looking sad the number of fouls he commits! Never have I seen a Saints stand off look so slow!

Can we please have LMS back he must be missing London & his Millwall team lol!
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Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 9:12 pm  
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Except he was fired months ago. So this is nothing to do with him. We've got Rush and Cunningham, ie two extremely inexperienced individuals who were dropped on by a Chairman who thought we were still the 2006 team. He may now realise that we are not.



Maguire put in place the structures for success at Wigan, Ape has built on that,we have gone backwards with Potter and Simmons. DA was the last top coach we had.

Your showing your lack of understanding, sadly things cant be changed overnight , hopefully with the Brown appointment he will be influencing some changes already (transfers and contract renewals) and he will have a good pre season to get his idea's bedded in.
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Re: : Sun May 27, 2012 9:14 pm  
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Wilkin give him 100% support but now he is looking sad the number of fouls he commits! Never have I seen a Saints stand off look so slow!




Even more idiotic than normal, JW is not a standoff, he is a loose forward or second row
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Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 9:16 pm  
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Maguire put in place the structures for success at Wigan, Ape has built on that,we have gone backwards with Potter and Simmons. DA was the last top coach we had.

Your showing your lack of understanding, sadly things cant be changed overnight , hopefully with the Brown appointment he will be influencing some changes already (transfers and contract renewals) and he will have a good pre season to get his idea's bedded in.


maguire changed the bad culture to a great one he turned the lazzy players into workaholics. shaun wane was incharge of defence when maguire was here and i would also say the attack has stepped up another few notches aswell. i dont think anyone can try and say shaun wane is just living off the scraps from maguire.
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