Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 5:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I am being objective.

Nothing wrong with his effort. Hall is a big bloke and Makinson simply made a naive error of going high instead of low. Had he gone low, Hall was his. Makinson is yet to play a full season in the first team. He will make these naive errors. One error in a whole match is nothing.

Did you see his arm? It was trapped under Hardaker. Leeds were trying to get penalties all night. It was the only way they could make yards. And he wasn't the only Saints player to give away a penalty (whether deserved or not) so that has absolutely no bearing on whether he had a good game in my view. Giving away a single penalty is hardly having a bad game or even a mixed game.

As was posted elsewhere, he scored a cracker of a try, took some amazing catches, looked for work, defended well (other than the Hall error) and made some good kick returns. He is a very promising player, period.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 7:23 pm  

It was a poor technique by Sinfield and was malicious but he should still get a ban as his mistake injured another teams player. He's up before committe and thin he will get a match ban. He looked bemused last night but I am sure when he see's the replay it wasnt just nothing.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 7:27 pm  

supercat wrote:

It was a poor technique by Sinfield and was malicious but he should still get a ban as his mistake injured another teams player. He's up before committe and thin he will get a match ban. He looked bemused last night but I am sure when he see's the replay it wasnt just nothing.

it was lazy, nothing else

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 7:31 pm  

supercat wrote:

It was a poor technique by Sinfield and was malicious but he should still get a ban as his mistake injured another teams player. He's up before committe and thin he will get a match ban. He looked bemused last night but I am sure when he see's the replay it wasnt just nothing.

It wasn`t poor technique at all.
Ablett tackles Makinson and as he goes down Sinfield comes in and clocks him one. Unintentional and no malice.
Sinfield is not a dirty player end of.
By the way the panel reckon Sinfield has no case to answer.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 7:53 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Nothing naive about it really. It was simply a poor tackle and he should have done better. Mistakes happen.

What about the miss by Lomax just prior?

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 8:42 pm  

chapylad wrote:

It wasn`t poor technique at all.
Ablett tackles Makinson and as he goes down Sinfield comes in and clocks him one. Unintentional and no malice.
Sinfield is not a dirty player end of.
By the way the panel reckon Sinfield has no case to answer.

Sorry was supposed to have typed wasn't malicious.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 8:55 pm  

Sinfield's tackle was tired and clumsy and nothing more - it would be very, very harsh to give him a ban for it. Which, under the current RL Randomised Punishment System means he'll probably get a 4 match ban for it...

...and I'd have loved to have been reading the "Meli is the evil son of Satan and must be stoned to death on the Town Hall steps" thread that would have been here if he'd messed up that tackle instead of the current Teflon one. Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 9:31 pm  

WidnesExile wrote:

hang on lets be objective.

He's a good young player but.

He missed a tackle on Ryan Hall with a poor effort which resulted in a try.

He also was guilty of lying on badly in the Leeds half from which they got a penalty and scored on the first tackle! I don't think he needed to do this I think the cover had got back.

Ryan Hall has not looked out of place playing against the Aussies, missing a tackle on him is hardly the sign of inadequacy.

I watched on the tv, so may be wrong, but from what I could tell the cover was nowhere near back and had he not delayed the tackle they'd have scored anyway.

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 9:32 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

...and I'd have loved to have been reading the "Meli is the evil son of Satan and must be stoned to death on the Town Hall steps" thread that would have been here if he'd messed up that tackle instead of the current Teflon one. Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.

That would of course rely on someone actually watching the game, and not simply trot out someone else's opinion about the GF 3 years ago. If Meli, Shenton, Wellens and Flannery leave at the end of the season, and god forbid Hohaia and Perry go too, the doom n gloom brigade will go into meltdown. Who will they turn their attention to then?

Re: Makinson : Tue May 22, 2012 9:34 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.

Thing is, though, Makinson doesn't do a LOT of 'bad' stuff. He occasionally makes a mistake. But he does a lot of GOOD stuff and when he does his GOOD stuff, it is generally outstanding. And he is our youngest and least experienced player. Therefore, he is the opposite in all respects to Meli.