Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:59 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

And you have totally discounted any credit for the Leeds and Wire games.

Yes, because Leeds were total crap! They had no defence. They have lost their following two games. They could end up losing to London, something even we didn't do. Warrington gave us the bloody first half. Two of our tries came from their stupid offloads!

I kept my head when everyone around (bar one or two) were losing theirs. It looks like what I suspected it to be: the team is the problem and not the coaching staff. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:07 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yes, because Leeds were total crap! They had no defence. They have lost their following two games. They could end up losing to London, something even we didn't do. Warrington gave us the bloody first half. Two of our tries came from their stupid offloads!

I kept my head when everyone around (bar one or two) were losing theirs. It looks like what I suspected it to be: the team is the problem and not the coaching staff. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Thank you as I thought, you just take the evidence you want and bin the rest. Fine.

Please please please never do jury duty. Other than that please continue with the one eyed postings.

I never said it was a change that would last from the Leeds and Wire games, but neither am I going to take one result to try and justify the opposite. You have not kept your head, you have just lost it in the opposite direction to everyone else.

Personally I'm waiting on a few more games before making a judgement on the new set up. But I'm not going to discount the Wigan result just as I'm not going to discount the other 2 results, maybe that's because I don't have a specific point I'm desperately trying to prove one way or the other.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:10 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Thank you as I thought, you just take the evidence you want and bin the rest. Fine.

I've been thoroughly consistent. I said after the Leeds game that Leeds offered no resistence. I said after the wire game that (a) their offloads were ridiculous and that we wobbled in the second half. I have been one of the few to see ALL the evidence, not just the pie in the sky wishful thinking evidence.

Please please please never do jury duty. Other than that please continue with the one eyed postings.

And you are taking all views into consideration?

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:13 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Personally I'm waiting on a few more games before making a judgement on the new set up.

Good for you.

And I'll say now that I wouldn't be at all surprised if we beat Cas. Do you know why I think that? Because Millward is fielding a team chock full of u20s and since their defence is not the best anyway, it is very likely the match will be another training ground exercise for us. Great if we win; that's another two points in the bag. But I won't be doing handstands if we do.

I just wanted to put my cards on the table so that I can be judged accordingly.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:17 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

What happens if we win the GF with KC and rush?
What happens if we win the CC with KC and Rush?
What happens if 1 + 1 does not equal 2?
What happens if we win the next 4 league games?
What happens if we win 2 and lose 2 games?
What happens if Wigan go on a losing streak of 7 games?
What .....................

You get the point, it's a very negative point of view to take.

No. It's the pragmatic view to take.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:19 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Good for you.

And I'll say now that I wouldn't be at all surprised if we beat Cas. Do you know why I think that? Because Millward is fielding a team chock full of u20s and since their defence is not the best anyway, it is very likely the match will be another training ground exercise for us. Great if we win; that's another two points in the bag. But I won't be doing handstands if we do.

I just wanted to put my cards on the table so that I can be judged accordingly.

So you have taken any credit from this next game because of the line up and you know we are pretty much going to win. funny though that given the line up for Bradford that we should of won, that's Royce could not gain the dead cert win.

Anyway I said after a few more games. So that's not just this next game it's the next few games. Royce had 7 I see no reason why we should judge the new set up before 7 games.


I know you are a die hard royce fan and whilst it's commendable to be so loyal in the end he was just another coach.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:20 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

No. It's the pragmatic view to take.

Pragmatic base on what????

We have lost one game to wigan.. So

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:22 pm  

Benidorm John wrote:

Trollop would be more appropriate.

WTF?

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:22 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

So you have taken any credit from this next game because of the line up and you know we are pretty much going to win. funny though that given the line up for Bradford that we should of won, that's Royce could not gain the dead cert win.

Not so. With Bradford their stand in players have been better than the players they replaced ... and I said so at the time! That doesn't make them a world beating side (only a world club champions beating side, obviously...), but it does make the opposition's life difficult. However, as I said at the time (and before our coach was sacked) our loss to Bradford was about individual errors, particularly those of Jamie Foster but also of lazy Tony Puletua who dropped a great ball from Wello on the way to the tryline.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:24 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

WTF?

I don't know who he is, other than a mate of Rogues, but his posts in my direction have been getting closer to the bone for a while.

I'm perfectly open to having the mick taken out of me for my views on certain things but that particular post was both unnecessary and entirely inaccurate.