Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:21 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Which season are you talking about here?

Are you saying that, for example, our discipline was woeful against the Catalans Dragons? Against Salford? Against London? Did we make loads of mistakes in those games? What was wrong with the selections in those games? I'm sure you won't answer and it really doesn't matter if you do or don't.

Personally, I'm more concerned with what is going to happen once the big games are over with, the ones that require a proper coaching team in place, the ones when maybe our senior players don't feel quite up to doing the work, when talk of pride in the shirt and all that bollox has worn off. There will be plenty of those occasions. I'm just keeping my feet on the ground in anticipation of them.

It makes a change from being concerned if we will a game at all, no matter who we are playing!

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:23 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol: Jeez, Pete, you can be so ridiculously childish sometimes!

I honestly think that.

What have a I changed my mind over with Jamie?

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:25 pm  

St pete wrote:

If Royce was such a good coach why couldn't he give the senior players a kick up the backside?

As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:27 pm  

St pete wrote:

I honestly think that.
What have a I changed my mind over with Jamie?

You thought he should be dropped, just as we all did (some for his own good, some because they thought he was rubbish). You now slate Royce for dropping him for one game. So you have changed your mind about Foster.

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:29 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.

Royce - " we didn't know what we was doing out there and I didn't know what we was doing and I'm the coach"

If that's the players language then I'm glad he's gone.

West tigers fans had a party when he left, read their forum comments on him.

Changed my mind on Jamie?

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:33 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

As Tim Sheens said, he speaks the language of the players, which is why he is well respected at Wests Tigers and why they want him back. That would have also made him sympathetic towards the players which is probably what led to his downfall.

Which makes him perfect assistant, rather than head, coach material. Alas he wasn't our assistant coach.

Let's see if Wests give him the head coaching job seeing as they are so desperate to have him back...

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:35 pm  

St pete wrote:

Royce - " we didn't know what we was doing out there and I didn't know what we was doing and I'm the coach"

Translation: "What the fook were you doing out there?"

Quite simple really.

Changed my mind on Jamie?

I've replied to you on that already.

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:37 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You thought he should be dropped, just as we all did (some for his own good, some because they thought he was rubbish). You now slate Royce for dropping him for one game. So you have changed your mind about Foster.

I posted on here before anyone else that IMO Jamie needed taking out the first team (not dropped) to build his confidence and maybe bring him down a peg or two as I got the feeling he thought he was better than he was.

I've never ever said rest backs, resting wingers and centres week in and week out like Royce knocked any sort of partnership you firm as a centre/winger partnership.

I think Jamie will come back better than he's ever been. I know for a fact he's chomping at the bit and when he gets back in, he intends to stay in because KC will not drop him if he's playing well unlike the idiot.

Just swallow your pride and admit Simmons was gash. We was boring, unorganised, clueless and lacked heart under him. The fact he was in charge for our worst ever run says it all.

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:39 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Which makes him perfect assistant, rather than head, coach material. Alas he wasn't our assistant coach.

That's fine. I have no problem with that. I hope he goes back there and continues the good work he was doing there.

He still got us to the Grand Final last season and he gave debuts to some very promising young players AND he did it all through a very turbulant time. So he was a decent head coach as well.

But lest I forget, he sinned against the Mighty Saints for we played BORING RUGBY!!! (We didn't, actually, at least not all the time, but hey, some fans think Daniel Anderson made us play boring rugby)

Worse than that ... WE LOST FOUR MATCHES and they were ON THE BOUNCE! Hellfire and damnation. Sacrilege. The unforgivable sin.

Re: Foster : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:40 pm  

St pete wrote:

I posted on here before anyone else that IMO Jamie needed taking out the first team (not dropped) to build his confidence and maybe bring him down a peg or two as I got the feeling he thought he was better than he was.

There you go. And now you slate Royce for doing the same thing.

The rest of what you said was your usual blather and I'm not interested in responding to it anymore.