Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:18 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

are you actually on crack? the team that played tonight and last night is the same that played the previous 6 games???? It's like a complete transformation!

No, dumbass. I was responding to Tony Stark's point about fatigue and their fragility in the second half. Try reading my post before you have a go. Just for a change. G'won, I dare ya.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:21 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

We're assuming they are all enjoying their rugby or indeed that they didn't enjoy it previously. Roby looks just the same as he always looks, for example. But he is a true professional and gives it his all in every game. He is one of the few senior players I can still admire. Wello is another one, but he was outstanding for us last season too, as was Robes of course.

Enjoying your rugby isn't enough to win games. Sometimes it's just hard graft that is required, which isn't so enjoyable.

Winning games, playing good rugby, fans buzzing, winning bonus = enjoying rugby

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:22 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I agree with all this. I think the latter point is part and parcel of revving up as the season gets underway.

Mike Appleton said on Twitter that wasn't it good to see Meli enjoying his rugby again on the wing. Well sure, that's great for Meli, but it is not the best place for him to play. Had Warrington been on their game tonight, or Leeds last weekend, we would have been peppered down that side and much joy would have been had, especially with the daft decision to debut a player on that side against Warrington. I think indulging the senior players will come back to bite us.

Also, we looked fragile at one point in the second half when Warrington actually brought the game to us. We began making mistakes and giving away penalties. So even with Meli happy on the wing we look a long way from the side people are claiming we look like.

But, in all that time we only let one try in.......that's how fragile we were....

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:24 pm  

St pete wrote:

Winning games, playing good rugby, fans buzzing, winning bonus = enjoying rugby

But I don't think a 'senior players must enjoy their rugby' is a very reliable long term approach. Hard work, maintaining concentration, not making daft offloads ... all the boring things in life are what get you the wins. And appeasing one bloke who has leaked tries in every GF so far and who regularly switches off near the goal line throughout the season is not a tactic I agree with or think will be productive in the long term. If I'm proven wrong and Meli has had some kind of revelation then so be it but just now I think the keep the senior players happy regardless philosophy will bite us in the backside.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:27 pm  

newport dave wrote:

But, in all that time we only let one try in.......that's how fragile we were....

Likewise against Bradford, for instance, when we were down to 12 men. We didn't concede. Our defence has been improving for a few weeks. We did, however, let in a try on the death (again) and Warrington did rather like messing up their attacking plays near our line, which helped us it has to be said. We were let off quite a few times by their unforced errors.

I made all manner of excuses for us last season because we were a team under pressure of injures with a lot of young players coping under adversity. Now that we have what the Sky guys labelled 'the old guard' back again, there are no excuses.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:30 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

No, dumbass. I was responding to Tony Stark's point about fatigue and their fragility in the second half. Try reading my post before you have a go. Just for a change. G'won, I dare ya.

Now now you two! Play nice!

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:33 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Give em the job !!!!

Another top game. We look good in attack and solid in defence against a very good Dire side

You haven't been watching the same Wire side we have for a month then, only performance we have put in this year is v Hudds, don't confuse us with last years team, we've been average at best of late.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:33 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But I don't think a 'senior players must enjoy their rugby' is a very reliable long term approach. Hard work, maintaining concentration, not making daft offloads ... all the boring things in life are what get you the wins. And appeasing one bloke who has leaked tries in every GF so far and who regularly switches off near the goal line throughout the season is not a tactic I agree with or think will be productive in the long term. If I'm proven wrong and Meli has had some kind of revelation then so be it but just now I think the keep the senior players happy regardless philosophy will bite us in the backside.

Put this way, the lads are buzzing and look happy. When everyone including you was predicting a defeat to Leeds, I was saying just how upbeat the lads are and tipped saints to win.

You can actully see the difference in them.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:35 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

You haven't been watching the same Wire side we have for a month then, only performance we have put in this year is v Hudds, don't confuse us with last years team, we've been average at best of late.

You have quality players and have the ability to win games when playing poorly .... did you see us under Simmons this year? We'd have lost against Warrington Wizards never mind the wolves a couple of weeks ago.

Re: Rush & the King ! : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:40 pm  

Every team we have got points out of this season bar London and KR have come away from the game saying "How did we not beat them today?"

Even Hudds, who i thought we put our best performance of the season in.

I'm not being derogatory towards Saints, we were well beaten tonight but honestly the only difference we have had over Saints so far this season is luck when we didn't deserve it.