Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:26 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I wouldn't mind Karl Harrison, seemed to be doing wonders at Salford with a poor team then mysteriously got the boot. Could be brought in for the rest of the season to see us through and if he does well go from there.

Its been stated he's quite happy coaching where he is and has outside business intrests, which make the fickle world of SL coaching slightly unappealing, but he wouldn't turn down a job at Langtree Park, would he?
He managed to get Salford up to 4th, if I recall correctly. Not too shabby.

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:34 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

hope saints go for a hungry english coach. there are plenty of them out there that deserve a chance. especially after the lack of success from Simmons.

Being hungry is not enough at this level. You need to be able to demonstrate technical and tactical competency. We are too big a club to be risking it all on an unproven but hungry coach just because they are British. Our recruitment process should be the best person for the job irrespective of their nationality, ethnicity, age and gender.

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:29 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Being hungry is not enough at this level. You need to be able to demonstrate technical and tactical competency. We are too big a club to be risking it all on an unproven but hungry coach just because they are British. Our recruitment process should be the best person for the job irrespective of their nationality, ethnicity, age and gender.

Gender? Like women know anything about rugby!!!


I'll just be heading off out before saintsfan gets here...

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:38 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I wouldn't mind Karl Harrison, seemed to be doing wonders at Salford with a poor team then mysteriously got the boot. Could be brought in for the rest of the season to see us through and if he does well go from there.

Agreed - good choice.
It seemed he lost the power struggle with that teflon coated simms after he almost managed to polish a turd in the Salford team.

It would also depend on whether sir mac would be happy with someone other than a yes man as karl is far from subtle in that department of sticking to the script.

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:44 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Agreed - good choice.
It seemed he lost the power struggle with that teflon coated simms after he almost managed to polish a turd in the Salford team.

It would also depend on whether sir mac would be happy with someone other than a yes man as karl is far from subtle in that department of sticking to the script.

No way on this earth will Karl Harrison be saints coach. Not a chance!

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:54 pm  

What about Paul Cullen and Phil Clarke as his assistant. With Phils stats on teams you would never loose again.

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:02 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

What about Paul Cullen and Phil Clarke as his assistant. With Phils stats on teams you would never loose again.

Could you imagine the half time team talks?

"Now, lets have a look at the Key Performance Indicators and my margin meter says you'll win by 4 so don't worry about anything."

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:08 pm  

There isnt a British coach out there with the necessary skills to be given the coaching job at Saints.

Noble and Kear are the best qualified, but neither would bring anything new to the table.

Talk of Powell, a failure at Leeds or Harrison and Lowes other failures at the top level is just not even worthy of being thought about.

The problem we have is that in the UK the RL lacks a proper coaching development plan. Its all about employing an ex player because he knew his way about on the football pitch.


For me the coach must come from Australia and either have an established pedigree of coaching an NRL team for a number of years, or be a highly promising young assistant coach in the Mcguire mold.

The aussies are brought through the coaching ranks in a system that both develops talent and roots out the chaff. They even have a finishing school known as the Superleague in which the best young coaches can be given their first shot in a high pressure environment.

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:07 pm  

nathan brown has agreed to take over

Re: JUSTIN MORGAN : Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:08 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

For me the coach must come from Australia and either have an established pedigree of coaching an NRL team for a number of years, or be a highly promising young assistant coach in the Mcguire mold.

Not sure I want someone in the Maguire mould but I'd go with the established pedigree bit. However, one look at our squad (either ageing and past their best or young and inexperienced) and I would imagine only assistants will apply.