Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:27 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Jukesays wrote:

Did you not think about pulling over?

I did. With my lights on (including fog lamps) so that I could be seen. I was reminded of 2009 when we had the same kind of weather and I had to do exactly the same thing only I was somewhere near Wigan at the time which made the experience extra scary.

Fog lamps in the rain NO NO NO NO....they just dazzle other road users....called FOG lamps for a reason ya know

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:27 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

onedego wrote:

Your new stadium is actually quite sheltered,.

Er, no it's not. At least the south side of it isn't. There is a great big open space from the stadium up to God knows where on the south side. And it's the south side which has suffered damage.

Do you know exactly where the damage on he south stand is?

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

onedego wrote:

Your new stadium is actually quite sheltered,.

Er, no it's not. At least the south side of it isn't. There is a great big open space from the stadium up to God knows where on the south side. And it's the south side which has suffered damage.

Ahh, they must've knocked down Arnold Clark, and the industrial units then... not to mention the verges all around that industrial estate...

Time to wake up and smell the bacon SaintsFan, Langtree Park is POOR. The mear fact that they realised after the thing was built, that they have to add additional bits, is the first sign. Now the roof falling in, when there's no damage to the industrial units (built out of corrogated steel/alloy)... Regardless of GUST speed, a building should be designed to withstand SUSTAINED wind-speed. If that's what happens at a gust of 60mph (common in the UK) then god knows what would happen if we had a sustained 60mph.

Beaufort Wind Scale Lists 55–63 mph as a "Storm" or "Whole Gale" which is described as: "Trees are broken off or uprooted, saplings bent and deformed. Poorly attached asphalt shingles and shingles in poor condition peel off roofs."

Again, this is SUSTAINED wind-speeds, and not GUSTS.

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:35 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Has planning permission been granted for the cladding of the remainder of the ground. It's just that I was speaking to someone (who should know) last week and he said that it hadn't been approved yet.

If they 'should know' then they would know that it has been approved.

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:36 pm  

Just been on the news for what its worth, strongest gust in the area was 73 mph while it was 50 mph in built up Manchester. Stadium just been shown.

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:41 pm  

Legman wrote:

Just been on the news for what its worth, strongest gust in the area was 73 mph while it was 50 mph in built up Manchester. Stadium just been shown.

My worry is, none of the other buildings in the area been danaged, Wigan and Warrington stadium had no damage or either of the football stadiums in the area.

We are lucky these winds didn't occur during a game or someone could get hurt or even worse.

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:46 pm  

Crossgates Rhino wrote: SaintsFan wrote: Jukesays wrote: Did you not think about pulling over? I did. With my lights on (including fog lamps) so that I could be seen. I was reminded of 2009 when we had the same kind of weather and I had to do exactly the same thing only I was somewhere near Wigan at the time which made the experience extra scary. Fog lamps in the rain NO NO NO NO....they just dazzle other road users....called FOG lamps for a reason ya know Fog Lamps can be used where visibility is less than 100m in front. Rule 226 You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236). Rule 236 You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves. for further info see the following link http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr ... /DG_069859 but someone really needs to read the highway code again

Crossgates Rhino wrote: SaintsFan wrote: Jukesays wrote: Did you not think about pulling over? I did. With my lights on (including fog lamps) so that I could be seen. I was reminded of 2009 when we had the same kind of weather and I had to do exactly the same thing only I was somewhere near Wigan at the time which made the experience extra scary. Fog lamps in the rain NO NO NO NO....they just dazzle other road users....called FOG lamps for a reason ya know Fog Lamps can be used where visibility is less than 100m in front. Rule 226 You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236). Rule 236 You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves. for further info see the following link http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr ... /DG_069859 but someone really needs to read the highway code again

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm  

If I were you guys, i'd be worried about starting the season at Langtree. The officials will have that exact same view Pete. IF this were to happen during a game. So, out come the investigators, structural engineers etc etc, to find out what happened, what to do to fix it, and how to garauntee that it doesn't happen again.

I can't see it being a quick process. We're looking at a corner which, admittedly, there is a HUGE stress on corners, but is there an issue with anywhere else in the stadium....

Time will tell I guess....

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

onedego wrote:

Your new stadium is actually quite sheltered,.

Er, no it's not. At least the south side of it isn't. There is a great big open space from the stadium up to God knows where on the south side. And it's the south side which has suffered damage.

its not like its the top of billinge lump though is it? even if by some miricle it did get to 70mph, thats hardly exceptional and the stadium should have been designed to take much more = shoddy job by someone

Re: Storm Damage : Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:53 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

SaintsFan wrote:

onedego wrote:

Your new stadium is actually quite sheltered,.

Er, no it's not. At least the south side of it isn't. There is a great big open space from the stadium up to God knows where on the south side. And it's the south side which has suffered damage.

its not like its the top of billinge lump though is it? even if by some miricle it did get to 70mph, thats hardly exceptional and the stadium should have been designed to take much more = shoddy job by someone

Where in the south stand is it damaged?