Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:54 pm  

wakey_saint wrote:

snip

I don't want to start an argument here, but only quoting part of my post doesn't really make sense. Why would you cut this part of my post out of your quote

Offside Monkey wrote:

The rugby was dull. We relied too much on short kicks for tries as we didn't create well out wide. We were also often infruiatingly unorganised on the last tackle, which is fairly unforgivable.
He was part (along with DA and Nobby) of that Brian Smith school of coaching which revolved around having a bigger pack than anyone else and did not include a plan B.
I also think we got so used to scraping through, given the injuries he had, that we were guilty of forgetting what talented players we had and not playing enough rugby.

only to then post this yourself in order to disagree with me

wakey_saint wrote:

In 2009, he took us on a run starting after Round 22, where we lost the CCSF, 3 league games and a GF(5 games out of 9 we played)...and in all of these games could not manage to score 20 or more points - at no point in all the time of watching Saints have we ever scored less than 20 points in 9 consecutive games) His attacking play was appauling and we often didnt look to have any idea

This is what has caused a stand off on these boards. Posters like myself don't think Potter was perfect, but appreciate that, given what he had at his disposal, didn't do badly, especially we were tipped by some so called experts to finish outside the top 4, had "a back line worse than wakefield's" and had a lot of senior players moving on.
We could have done a lot worse and I'm not completely sure the messiah that is Daniel Anderson would have faired much better.

Plus we beat WIgan last year -at the DW, which is priceless. He also didn't lose to wire

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:11 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I don't want to start an argument here, but only quoting part of my post doesn't really make sense. Why would you cut this part of my post out of your quote
only to then post this yourself in order to disagree with me
This is what has caused a stand off on these boards. Posters like myself don't think Potter was perfect, but appreciate that, given what he had at his disposal, didn't do badly, especially we were tipped by some so called experts to finish outside the top 4, had "a back line worse than wakefield's" and had a lot of senior players moving on.
We could have done a lot worse and I'm not completely sure the messiah that is Daniel Anderson would have faired much better.

Plus we beat WIgan last year -at the DW, which is priceless. He also didn't lose to wire

I wasnt trying to start an argument, I was agreeing with what you had said in those points, hence why I only quoted that bit to expand on what you had said

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but for me personally Potter was the worst coach we have had for a long time and did more negative than positive for us. I think given the same time period as Potter had, Simmons is capable of lifting silverware but only time will tell whether that is right or not.

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:41 pm  

wakey_saint wrote:

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but for me personally Potter was the worst coach we have had for a long time and did more negative than positive for us. I think given the same time period as Potter had, Simmons is capable of lifting silverware but only time will tell whether that is right or not.

I too, think Royce could guide us to a trophy next year, especially if McGuire leaving Wigan has the effect we're all hoping for! We've got some very exciting players in the squad. If we can get the ball going to the right aswell as we do to the left and have a kciking game somewhere in the 13, then we'll be a very dangerous side.
As I said, Potter had his pros and cons, but he was perhaps the first coach in SL we had that had real limitations in terms of salary cap and quotas, he had a lot of injuries and senior players leaving and still got up up to 2nd in the competition, so why he cops as much flack as he does I don't know.

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:01 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Until we faced Leeds at Old Trafford.

I don't recall him missing tackles or bottling it.

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:11 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I don't recall him missing tackles or bottling it.

I don't remember him having a particularly winning tactical set up in both the games either though.

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:38 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I don't recall him missing tackles or bottling it.

But you do remeber Mick Potter doing so?

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:40 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

I don't remember him having a particularly winning tactical set up in both the games either though.

His tactics worked fine against Leeds at any other time in the season, including play offs. And he could beat other teams at GFs and CC finals.

We didn't beat Leeds at the GF under Potter either. We didn't beat Wigan there under Potter either. And with Potter there was no Challenge Cup to lessen the blow either. There was under Anderson.

Some people are truly desperate in trying to justify Potter's existence. It's rather funny! Tends to be the same few people, with one or two appearing out of nowhere with their 'Potter Spotter' bleeping away.

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:40 pm  

McClennan wrote:

If you're using Ade Gardner's personal understanding of rugby league as a barometer to assess coaching performance you're on dodgy ground lol.

The most vocal was KC. Puletua was just laughing when KC was describing how potter worked. When asked about the best coach he worked under KC said Anderson.

I think just proves what alot of people suspected about the dressingroom under potter

The funny thing is both KC and Ade didn't have a bad word to say about any other coaches they worked under..

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:24 pm  

Is anyone else surprised to hear KC flagging off another coach? Although it is funny and no doubt true it does seem a bit unprofessional to get involved on this sort of thing

Re: LMAO - Ade and the kings view on potter : Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:34 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Is anyone else surprised to hear KC flagging off another coach? Although it is funny and no doubt true it does seem a bit unprofessional to get involved on this sort of thing

He's not slagging him off. He's making a humourous tale out of goings on at the club in the context of a forum for Ade's testimonial.