Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:48 pm  

Actually 8043 for the season so far so not very below the 9k

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:50 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

4) a £2.0M loan due to be paid by October 2010 (is that why there are no 2010 accounts filed?)

You need to find out when accounts have to be filed with Companies House.

HTH.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Last time it WAS the stadium, yes. But this time it cannot be the stadium because we are no longer in it. It is a deceased stadium. It is no more. Our stadium for this season is Widnes and the RFL can clearly see our new stadium on the website. (And didn't they recently visit it as a possible venue for the World Cup? It looks better than KR already!) I just can't see it being our stadium.

All of which would mean you couldn't get an A grade. The criteria published earlier is not the full criteria. The RFL will not take into account grounds that haven't materialised yet, and if renting/leasing etc to get an A grade there must be at least 5 year left on any agreement.

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:52 pm  

oh, a Saints Wigan dick measuring contest. Lovely

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:54 pm  

Ski wrote:

oh, a Saints Wigan dick measuring contest. Lovely

I'm going to bet on StainsFan.

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:58 pm  

Ski wrote:

oh, a Saints Wigan dick measuring contest. Lovely

We do play in 2 weeks. what did you expect. Any excuse for an arguement. Even something that is not really a threat to either club causes a nice oppertunity to have go with the semi only 2 weeks away.

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:59 pm  

Once we are in the new stadium there isn't any reason why we should not get a Grade A.

I'm amazed that Leeds can get a Grade A when the "away end" hasn't even a roof. Each of the other Grade A clubs
play under fully covered stadia. The criteria in this respect is crackers.

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:05 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

The RFL will not take into account grounds that haven't materialised yet,

(a) They did. See the summing up in League Express this week of what the RFL said last time around.
(b) It most definitely has materialised. Unless that stadium with grass growing on its pitch is the stadium for another team.
(c) The two above suggest you were just guessing.

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:06 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

You need to find out when accounts have to be filed with Companies House.

HTH.

True.
Although a substantial ongoing support of the Lenagan family is mentioned in the accounts to see wigan through 2010/11 season.
it also says that additional loans from the family are necessary so the chances are he will re-structure the debt owed to his family.

However, this does not solve/disguise the ongoing trading losses of wigan even with your high support levels; whereas we can grow to reach profitability which = sustainability.

How can wigan trade their way out of continuing losses when you are going full pelt and having to borrow more and more from its owner?

Re: St Helens Licence Grade : Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:08 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Actually 8043 for the season so far so not very below the 9k

How the fook have we managed that?

Don't forget though that Red Hall is full of pen pushers who will love dotting those 'i's and crossing those 't's and so we might only be 957 under the bar but Doggammit, no way will we get that Grade A!