Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:46 am  

He's a great guy, but there comes a time to clearly see that the game has changed and a more attacking style of full back is now the way to go, even if their defence is poor. We won't have that!

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:43 am  

Who'd have thought 3 months ago that we'd be on here, clamouring for a club legend to be dropped for Kyle Eastmond?

What a fickle mistress sport is.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:47 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Who'd have thought 3 months ago that we'd be on here, clamouring for a club legend to be dropped for Kyle Eastmond?

What a fickle mistress sport is.

Or maybe we are just very practical in St Helens and used to reforming characters.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:54 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Or maybe we are just very practical in St Helens and used to reforming characters.

Maybe. Personally, if we can get Leon and Clough back for the rest of the season and Eastmond plays full back, I think we can really challenge for trophies.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:41 am  

Paul Wellens is still a good club player, and has been a fantastic full back, I dont get all this "he's crap" "drop him" that I read on here sometimes, he's still always in the right place, pops up with tries and puts his body on the line. Okay he may have lost his pace but he's clever enough to make up for that.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:03 pm  

21-12 wrote:

Paul Wellens is still a good club player, and has been a fantastic full back, I dont get all this "he's crap" "drop him" that I read on here sometimes, he's still always in the right place, pops up with tries and puts his body on the line. Okay he may have lost his pace but he's clever enough to make up for that.

I don't think any sensible Saints fan thinks he is crap. Far from it. What we have seen however, is the likes of Tomkins and Hodgson returning the ball at pace and creating a better attacking platform for the forwards to be on. Tomkins is probably making an average of 10 metres more than Wello on a kick return and is leaving Wigan on the front foot when beginning their attacks. Eastmond is capable of this and possibly more due to him being so elusive.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:10 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I don't think any sensible Saints fan thinks he is crap. Far from it. What we have seen however, is the likes of Tomkins and Hodgson returning the ball at pace and creating a better attacking platform for the forwards to be on. Tomkins is probably making an average of 10 metres more than Wello on a kick return and is leaving Wigan on the front foot when beginning their attacks. Eastmond is capable of this and possibly more due to him being so elusive.

Eastmond doesn't have 1% of Tomkins' bravery though, and bravery is absolutely massive for a full back.

I have visions of Eastmond bottling falling on a loose ball in a big game and costing us.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:52 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Eastmond doesn't have 1% of Tomkins' bravery though, and bravery is absolutely massive for a full back.

I have visions of Eastmond bottling falling on a loose ball in a big game and costing us.

I echo these sentiments, but am willing to put faith in Kyle in the hopes that he wants to go out from Saints with a bang, rather than the whimper that was prevailing earlier in the season.

Lomax has the bavery you crave, which adds to the case for him being our future #1.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:25 pm  

Wello won't play this Sunday.

Re: Wello : Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:51 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Who'd have thought 3 months ago that we'd be on here, clamouring for a club legend to be dropped for Kyle Eastmond?

You might be. I'm not. I think we will be defensively very vulnerable on our line on Sunday.