Re: the kids go marching in : Tue May 03, 2011 6:42 pm  

As long we get one or two first team squad ready players every one or two years, I couldn't care less about trophies at that level. Nice for the players and coaching staff, but in the grand scheme of things pretty irrelevant.

Re: Re: : Tue May 03, 2011 7:09 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Let's get this right for once and for all. I don't troll

you are a troll , end of. You derail threads and you are just about as biased as it's possible to be. You make the odd decent point and you know a fair bit about u18/u20's which is tarnished by your complete wigan bias. your just a more intelligent version of nikos.

p.s you can stick your u20's GF wins where the sun doesnt shine if our lads come through to the only team that really matters (the first team) and do the business for us.

Re: the kids go marching in : Tue May 03, 2011 7:18 pm  

Our kids are doing a great job and I for one am very proud of them. We have one of the best (the best if you listen to Phil Clarke) youth set-ups in RL. Long may it continue. We are producing them so fast we can't possibly keep them all and unfortunately some have had to move on. Some players are late developers and it must be very hard for the coaches to decide who to keep and who to let go. It is a lottery at times but for everyone who fails to improve etc. there is always another one or two to take their place.

Re: Re: : Tue May 03, 2011 7:21 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Let's get this right for once and for all. I don't troll, but I do like a reasoned Rugby discussion, and as TS rightly says I won't bow down to one eyed Red Vee supporters just as I don't to some on the Cherry and White site.

I think your kids have done great, but apart from Lomax I wouldn't have any of them in front of the ones at Wigan.
And my reasoning, look at the last three years U20/21 Grand Finals.

Yes you do all the feckin time.
Your just a bit better at wrapping It up that's all.
Some can see that,some cant.
Your a one eyed pie eater,which Is fine,Its the pretending your not that p1sses most off.

Re: Re: : Tue May 03, 2011 9:32 pm  

Don Brennan wrote:

Yes you do all the feckin time.
Your just a bit better at wrapping It up that's all.
Some can see that,some cant.
Your a one eyed pie eater,which Is fine,Its the pretending your not that p1sses most off.

I'm so glad its not just me who see's it

Re: Re: : Tue May 03, 2011 10:06 pm  

Don Brennan wrote:

Yes you do all the feckin time.
Your just a bit better at wrapping It up that's all.
Some can see that,some cant.
Your a one eyed pie eater,which Is fine,Its the pretending your not that p1sses most off.

Absolutely.
Couldn't agree more.

As for the Saints kids, they have really produced the goods this season.
Fantastic performances to be where we are in the table with our injury list.

Re: the kids go marching in : Wed May 04, 2011 11:28 am  

I've lost count of the number of championship winning academy players who've failed to make the grade. I've similarly lost count of the number of modestly gifted youngsters who've gone on to become stars of SL (Roby and Wellens being two obvious examples).

Rogues can favour who he likes. The truth is form in the reserve grades isn't worth a carrot next to form in SL. Wigan's kids may go on to become yet another lost generation. Ditto Saints. Indeed, it could be that one of the less well-thought-of academies achieves the most success.

Moreover, it's utterly naive to think an entire academy will turn out "better" than another. Given that these kids are all at different ages and mature mentally and physically at entirely different rates it's impossible to draw any rational conclusions.

We will know for sure once these lads have reached the peak of their powers somewhere around 22 or 23. Until that point all arguments are completely worthless.

Re: Re: : Wed May 04, 2011 11:41 am  

MDW12 wrote:

I'm a massive Wigan fan but don't 'detest' any other fans. Dislike on the grounds of their team of choice and the rivalry, yes. I'm sure the majority of Saints suporters don't 'detest' Wigan fans either. It doesn't belong in our sport, and if you honestly feel that way then you should either go and watch football or grow up.

I don't detest Wigan fans, but I imagine I feel the same about them as most of Victorian London did about the Elephant Man.

Re: Re: : Thu May 05, 2011 6:20 am  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

I don't detest Wigan fans, but I imagine I feel the same about them as most of Victorian London did about the Elephant Man.

You mean you worry about the safety issues surrounding large crowds at popular attractons? I know we have the biggest attendances in the league but it's fine mate, no need to worry.

Re: Re: : Thu May 05, 2011 7:15 am  

MDW12 wrote:

I'm a massive Wigan fan but don't 'detest' any other fans. Dislike on the grounds of their team of choice and the rivalry, yes. I'm sure the majority of Saints suporters don't 'detest' Wigan fans either. It doesn't belong in our sport, and if you honestly feel that way then you should either go and watch football or grow up.

I have to agree as a Saints fan living in Billinge. I have a lot of mates who don't know anything at all about rugby ( I.E. Wiganers) but we get on fine until derby day. Then for 80 mins we don't speak, or we take the mick out of each other, then it's forgotten until next time.