Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:12 pm  

What Hoffman did was no different to what Hooper used to do .

But having said that, if it had been on Sam i would of been screaming blue murder.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:14 pm  

MOUSE13 wrote:

What Hoffman did was no different to what Hooper used to do .

However, Hooper is not playing in today's game so your comment is irrelevant. With respect.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:15 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

No one mentioning the blatant forward pass for the goon first try?

I have done so, elsewhere, but no-one else seems to be considering it.

I knew the farce that has become touch judges would make a difference one day, it's just unfortunate for us that it was in our game. Without that four points to Wigan, we would have won. Maguire was very well aware of just how lucky his team had been today. We were all over them until Wheeler was taken out.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:16 pm  

MOUSE13 wrote:

What Hoffman did was no different to what Hooper used to do .

And the rules were changed to protect the kicker and people were put in the bin for it

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:17 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

However, Hooper is not playing in today's game so your comment is irrelevant. With respect.

When wilkin was able to get to the kicker few years back he did it all the time.

It happens every week in every game. It's part of the game.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:19 pm  

St pete wrote:

When wilkin was able to get to the kicker few years back he did it all the time.

It happens every week in every game. It's part of the game.

It simply isn't any more. They changed the rules. It's an automatic yellow card if it's late. He was very late. Should have been a yellow.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:23 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

It simply isn't any more. They changed the rules. It's an automatic yellow card if it's late. He was very late. Should have been a yellow.

Sorry but I think he was committed to try to get to wheeler. I've not seen it on tv but that was my first instinct.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:24 pm  

St pete wrote:

It is a shame for wheeler. He was looking good over last weeks and looked up for the game today.

IMO the was nothing in the challenge by Hoffman. That sort of hit happens every week in every game. Wilkin does it and hooper was alwYs at it.

Shoulder injuries can be bad. I did my shoulder playing at haydock and it was never the same. Even 6yrs on and it still have problems.

Its funny for me that this should come up as I was watching the Leeds vs Bradford game last nigfht with a load of dire fans and many people were saying that the late challenge on a kicker seems to have been driven out of the game due to high profile publicity and harsh penalties.
In fact the concensus was that it had gone too far and most teams were not even bothering to attempt legitimate tackles on the kicker any more - presumably in case of being binned or sent off.

Now this happens and I've viewed it on the recording and its definately late by hoffman who knew exactly what he was doing but didn't seem malicious. (what was deadwood looking at when it happened??)

The result is however very bad (out for weeks if not months) even if the intention was not to hurt - I think any late tackle on the kicker, intentional or not needs to be punished strongly as they are so vunerable when in the process of kicking.

My heart goes out to Gary esp after all the injuries he's been through and he was on such a fine run of form.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:26 pm  

St pete wrote:

Sorry but I think he was committed to try to get to wheeler. I've not seen it on tv but that was my first instinct.

That was the ref's interpretation too. Quite possibly it will be the RFL's interpretation also, when they review the match. But I think that was late, when bearing in mind other similar situations (which arise every match). It was also far harder than it needed to be. However, there will be no fallout for Hoffman and we lose a great player possibly for months.

Re: Wheeler : Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:27 pm  

St pete wrote:

Sorry but I think he was committed to try to get to wheeler. I've not seen it on tv but that was my first instinct.

He may have been. But it was very late. When it's that late it's a penalty, no matter what generation we look at. It was so late I don't think the ref even saw it happen.